Hi everyone first I want to thank all of you for your help. Now for the final post on this the problem is solved. Something got left on in the coach which killed the batteries one of them was totally shot the other was very weak. The age of the batteries was a major factor here. Anyway there just wasn't enough juice in them to operate the solenoid two new batteries and all is well now. It's strange the way that happened the day before I had tested them and both showed good charges didn't take much to kill them as I said above I believe she had a lot to do with it.