Stopped in motor home for going too slow on I-80

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Here is another interesting article about this same incident. Seizure Note what Judge Hicks says and also note that apparently the driver had NO criminal record.

Highway seizures along I-80 by local authorities in Northern Nevada have come under fire in recent months, and some lawsuits have been filed challenging their constitutionality.
In his June 12 decision, Senior U.S. District Judge Larry Hicks chastised the Nevada U.S. Attorney’s office in Reno for not revealing details about the related first stop in their forfeiture papers.

Hicks said in his decision that the traffic stops in 2013 violated Gorman’s Fourth Amendment rights and were not conducted with “independent reasonable suspicion.

“No matter how this can be viewed, the two stops were for minor traffic violations and they both were extended beyond the legitimate purposes for such traffic stops,” Hicks wrote.

The second stop wouldn’t have happened if information from the first stop had not been “relayed” by troopers, Hicks explained.

It seems their whole civil case about the seizure is because the driver has exercised his 5th Amendment rights and will not tell where he got the money. He has never been charged with any crime. Sort of seems like someone else who took the fifth and was allowed to retire from the IRS except in this case Nevada wants to judge him guilty by not speaking and keep his money.

Skylark wrote:
Read about this case, but later won $5 million in wrongful death suit. MUST been drugs in some minds.

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Yeah, no biased slant by the author of either of those two articles. I'm sure both articles are 100% accurate considering their source. Back when I was a cop I used to get ordered to go murder people all the time so the government could have more park space!

There are many questions about this whole affair and perhaps we may never know the reason why the first police officer called ahead to initiate another stop of this driver.
I don't think that any of us are so naive that we believe that police officers will never make a stop unless it is for a valid reason. Even some of the officers on this forum have said that they can always come up with a reason to stop someone.
We had two cities here in Florida that were famous for stopping people with out of state plates and issuing them a traffic ticket or two, or three. Most were for speeding but the facts were that the revenue from these tickets amounted to the majority of those towns income. Those cities have since lost their police forces which is being taken care of now by the county sheriff.
Police have been known to profile drivers going north on I95 looking for vehicles that fit the pattern of those vehicles used to transport drugs. Fine and dandy but if you are an innocent person, driving a vehicle that meets the officers profile, you may get stopped. It is not always the bad guys that get stopped and most officers that I know freely admit to profiling people, even tho it is frowned on from a legal standpoint.

Skylark wrote:
Read about this case, but later won $5 million in wrongful death suit. MUST been drugs in some minds.

All over marijuana. Sheesh.. I think we're insane sometimes.

Read about this case, but later won $5 million in wrongful death suit. MUST been drugs in some minds.

Ranch Fortfeiture

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dodge guy wrote:
And now that I'm on that subject. How did anyone know what the driver had in his MH? And for that matter, why would the driver say anything? I think there is much more going on here!

On that same note the police can pull over an armored truck and seize it's cash too!

Of course there is much more going on. Police, contrary to popular belief, do not routinely stop a driver and "suspect they are carrying lots of cash" and then request a second stop to be made so they can confiscate the "suspected" cash.

The media has long since stopped trying to provide enough facts in an article to allow folks to make an educated opinion/guess as to the truth. Instead, they provide just enough to create a mass hysteria in as many directions as possible.

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msmith1199 wrote:
If people were to read the actual case, this guy was stopped for driving too slow in the fast lane and causing a traffic backup behind him. That is against the law in every state.

Correct! But where does seizing any money in the motorhome come into play?

And now that I'm on that subject. How did anyone know what the driver had in his MH? And for that matter, why would the driver say anything? I think there is much more going on here!

On that same note the police can pull over an armored truck and seize it's cash too!

Did you read the actual case? The info is all in there. The search of the motorhome was done with a search warrant. And please provide us an example of when the police pulled over an armored truck and seized the cash. I'd like to read about it.

msmith1199 wrote:
If people were to read the actual case, this guy was stopped for driving too slow in the fast lane and causing a traffic backup behind him. That is against the law in every state.

Correct! But where does seizing any money in the motorhome come into play?

And now that I'm on that subject. How did anyone know what the driver had in his MH? And for that matter, why would the driver say anything? I think there is much more going on here!

On that same note the police can pull over an armored truck and seize it's cash too!

If people were to read the actual case, this guy was stopped for driving too slow in the fast lane and causing a traffic backup behind him. That is against the law in every state.