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Canadian_Rainbi's avatar
Mar 13, 2016

Tach reading low

Not sure where the problem lies.

2002 Itasca Horison, Cummins 300 HP 5.9 ISB, Allison 6 speed transd, Freightliner chassis

Normally at 60 MPH the tach reads about 1700-1800 rpm.

Noticed yesterday while cruising (downhill) at about 65 MPH the tach was reading about 1300 rpm. It was like that all day. It would occasionally rise to 1500 going up hill, it had probably shifted down. Also when the exhaust brake came on while going down hill on cruise control the tach rose to about 2000 rpm. In the past, with the exhaust brake engaged, the rpm was higher than that.

Didn't notice when it started reading low. I know that when I started it up in the morning it was at its normal 600 or so and when I pressed the fast idle button it went up to about 1000 while the air charged.

The previous trip, a few days before, when I started up the front air gauge read about 55 lbs, the rear zero and the air alarm was sounding. As it charged, when the rear gauge passed 65 the low air alarm went off. The front gauge read something less than 60. When the rear gauge came up to near 130, the spitter valve activated. Front gauge still read low.

I checked all around, could not hear any air leaks. Air suspension, which fills from the front tank, seemed to have come up normally. When I restarted the rig, both air gauges read near 130 pounds (max) and worked seemingly normally from then on.

I am suspecting an electrical connection problem:

Quite a few years ago we lost the front gauge--it read zero and while waiting for a mechanic to be available I poked about under the dash and found a suspect connection on the gauge. I tightened it up and it was fine for six months when it quit again. In Mexico!

A mechanic eventually diagnosed a faulty gauge, couldn't get one in a reasonable time so we carried on without it working. In Oregon we took it in to a Freightliner shop who doubted it was the gauge--the tech said he had never seen one fail. But it had. New gauge we ended the problem.

A few weeks and several hundred miles before, the air would not come up and finally replacement of both the air dryer and the governor seemed to cure my problems. It did seem to recharge earlier than I have been used to.

If you think this was frustrating and worrying, add the fact that this all started in southern Mexico. We are now in Mazatlan heading north on Tuesday.

Back to the original topic: Ignore the tach problem until we get home in a couple of weeks?
  • One possibility is the tach sensor(prox switch) is missing some of the pulses off of the engine flywheel. Might be loose, miss adjusted or went south.

    Freightliner probably installed it and should be able to figure it out.
  • I'm fairly sure you have what Freightliner calls system III wiring for your instruments. The Vehicle Data Computer consolidates info from the engine computer and transmission computer, measures air pressures, and feeds all the data down the chassis data bus to the light bar message center on the dash. From the light bar, there is a spider harness furnishing all data to all gauges, with each gauge selecting the data required for that gauge.

    Go to this link and download service bulletin 54-12.

    Freightliner SB 54-12

    The 54-12 service bulletin has troubleshooting information.

    With your related air gauge problem, you may have bad solder joints in the VDC.

    There is a repair procedure in the files section of IRV2. Go to the link below and download VDU/VDC repair.
    IRV2 files section

    After you download the document, read it and see if your symptoms match with what is described.

    Good luck

    If all else fails, 1 800 FTL-HELP is the phone for Freightliner free help desk. Have the last 6 digits of your VIN number available as they will ask for that info.

    Fred
  • Next day tach performed normally and has been doing so to date, 5 days of driving, about 1,000 kilometers. Must have been a gremlin.

    Though the cruise control had been much more intermittent than usual.
  • Canadian Rainbirds wrote:
    Next day tach performed normally and has been doing so to date, 5 days of driving, about 1,000 kilometers. Must have been a gremlin.

    Though the cruise control had been much more intermittent than usual.


    Regarding the cruise control, look for corrosion on the brake wire terminals on the two brake light switches, located on bottom of brake treadle. You have to access them from under the coach. Several Freightliner owners have posted this has caused cruise control problems.

    If you're lucky, the tach will continue to work normally.

    Fred
  • Today, after grinding up a long hill, as we crested the hill it shifted up from 5th to 6th and the tach dropped from 2000 RPM to. . . 400 RPM! We'll see what it does when we restart the engine in a day or two! :h
  • Canadian Rainbirds wrote:
    Today, after grinding up a long hill, as we crested the hill it shifted up from 5th to 6th and the tach dropped from 2000 RPM to. . . 400 RPM! We'll see what it does when we restart the engine in a day or two! :h


    If this continues, try swapping the wiring harness connection between the tach and some other instrument. If the problem moves to the other instrument, you have a bad wiring harness. (This is part of the troubleshooting in SB 54-12.)

    Fred