Optimum size is probably about 28ft. GCVWR goes to 23,750lb. GVWR is 15,200lbThey handle like the Sprinter have very similar driving and speed characteristics

Ummm but what the heck are they?

I have seen a few Iveco trucks on the road here in the US but they are rare. Never have seen one of their vans. Diesel, isn't it?

A. It sure looks they have a great design for keeping the cabover bed free of water leaks during the life of the rig. :C B. The coach structure looks like it has marginal ground clearance for boondock camping in the Outback. :( C. The coach entrance door and slide appear to be on the wrong side. :B

The Jayco Optimum JV28-5 in the picture above is 8700 mm long, 2390 mm wide and a fuel tank approx. 27.5 Gallons as I converted 100 litres into gallons. I like it and would buy it, if available here. Bags

These are rapidly replacing the Sprinter in Australia

RobertRyan
Explorer
May 12, 2017
CharlesinGA wrote:
The VW Crafter is nothing more than a Sprinter with different grill and headlights, hood, etc, other wise it is a private label version of the Sprinter.

Charles

No built in same factory different engine and engineering differences. , It has been completely redesigned by MAN trucks, there is even a MAN trucks version.
MB Sprinter is now very different and does not share any of the Crafter body,engine or engineering,Crafter built in new factory in Poland
CharlesinGA
Explorer
May 12, 2017
The VW Crafter is nothing more than a Sprinter with different grill and headlights, hood, etc, other wise it is a private label version of the Sprinter.

Charles
RobertRyan
Explorer
May 11, 2017
Bumpyroad wrote:
ctilsie242 wrote:
Maybe VW can bring the Crafter to this side of the pond... Or their pickup truck.

I'll guarantee that their diesel will meet all standards required, one way or the other.
bumpy

Crafter is more a European Van. Amarok, is sold in Latin America, Australia and New Zealand primarily.
RobertRyan
Explorer
May 11, 2017
ctilsie242 wrote:
Maybe VW can bring the Crafter to this side of the pond... Or their pickup truck.

Crafter is more like the Transit built to a 3.5 ton level. Europeans and here normally go to a basic truck if a lot heavier. IVECO in the 70c or now 72c variant has a RAWR greater than the E450.
I think manufacturers maybe reluctant to off something like the IVECO Tonto off the shelf
Ultimate European Super C Class. In this case on a Mercedes Truck Chassis, combination Motorhome and Toy Hauler
Bumpyroad
Explorer
May 10, 2017
ctilsie242 wrote:
Maybe VW can bring the Crafter to this side of the pond... Or their pickup truck.

I'll guarantee that their diesel will meet all standards required, one way or the other.
bumpy
ctilsie242
Explorer II
May 10, 2017
Maybe VW can bring the Crafter to this side of the pond... Or their pickup truck.
bagman
Explorer
May 10, 2017
Given a choice, I would rather have the Ford 6.2 V-8 as it would be a lighter engine, would have more HP and a little less torque, but I bet the 6.2 is less thirsty than the 6.8 V-10! Bags.
pnichols
Explorer II
May 10, 2017
theoldwizard1 wrote:
Ford is continuing to build the E450 cutaway chassis which is pretty much the industry standard in Class C. They have, quietly, upgraded the engine and transmission. Besides the old V10 you can get the 6.2L V8 and the standard transmission is now the same 6 speed used in the F450 and up pickups.

Thank goodness for that!! (It's too bad the Chevy 4500 van faded into the RV sunset, too.)

It sure feels good having a "real truck" E450 under our 24 foot Class C when we're out and about, sometimes off the beaten track. It's large brake swept area and a nice wide track in the rear for lateral stability ... combined with good stock ground clearance for the coach body and suspension parts provide plenty of handling and driving confidence.

By the way, the original 5-speed 5R110 transmission in our E450 failed at around 61K miles. I had them install a remanufactured heavy duty version of the 5R110 transmission and it acts a lot different - way smoother than the original. I can now drive fulltime staying in Tow/Haul mode without any jerking or hesitating on upshifts and downshifts.
theoldwizard1
Explorer II
May 10, 2017
j-d wrote:
I was disappointed at the carrying capacity and the length motorhome that could be built on Sprinter. Surely Ford Transit would be better. NOPE! Smaller, lighter MoHo's being offered on the Ford. So now what?

Ford is continuing to build the E450 cutaway chassis which is pretty much the industry standard in Class C. They have, quietly, upgraded the engine and transmission. Besides the old V10 you can get the 6.2L V8 and the standard transmission is now the same 6 speed used in the F450 and up pickups.
RobertRyan
Explorer
May 10, 2017
CharlesinGA wrote:
tatest wrote:
Dominant issues are economic, imports have to deal with the 25% tariff on light trucks. Daimler uses knockdown kits assembled in the U.S., Ford and FCA have opted for U.S. final assembly with high NAFTA component content, as have GM/Izuzu and Toyota (Hino brand). FIAT can figure out how to produce their Iveco brand for our market, if they think the market is worthwhile. Same for Renault/Nissan or PSA, both big in light trucks globally but not currently in the U.S. market.

Yep, the chicken tax kills the competition here. Truck and auto mfg love it but its bad for the consumer.

Charlees

A Renault Master Class C