Tires replaced

Once again, Michelin is a tire WHOLESALER. The dealer sets his own price. Therefore the dealer should be responsible for any adjustment. Chassis manufactors probably have a deal with Michelin and get the tires wholesale. Does anyone remember the junk Michelin's XRV tires, two ply sidewalls. Now most people have gone to other brands. I have six Toyos on my coach and as long as I own it, no Michelin with fill out my wheel wells.
My opinion,if it disagrees with yours, keep it to yourself.

Tire threads and oil threads are always fun..

GREGORYJ wrote:
I agree with jwmll. I started replacing my original Michelin's with two new Michelin on the front(thru FMCA). One tire started going bad on a trip within 18 months and less than 10,000 miles. (vertical bulge on one tire's side wall) I felt this was a defect and Michelin has a 5 year warranty on defects. I stopped at 3 Michelin dealers on my way home, all said the same thing. Michelin will say " they don't make defective tires" and there is little chance the bad tire would be replaced. I got home , took the bad tire to the local Michelin dealer , they removed and inspected it and reported what they found to Michelin. Michelin then requested the tire be sent to their inspection center. It now 6 months later. No response from them at all. My conclusion , then don't back up their product. This summer I purchased 4 more new tires, TOYO's.

This sounds so familiar. I sold just about every brand of tire there was and the only company I had a problem with was MICHELIN. You are so right when you say "they don't make a defective tire", it was always send the tire to us for inspection and they always came back with CUSTOMER ABUSE as the problem with the tire. When you do get your dealer to adjust a Michelin, as a rule it comes out of the dealers pocket not Michelins. How many people had Michelin adjust their tire(s) when they had a "zipper" blow out on their MH's? That certainly wasn't customer abuse but rather it was defective tire(s). But, according to Michelin it was abuse.

I wonder how many products he owns that were made in China? I'm wondering why that known product that was rotting on the outside with less years that the one on my 05 PT Cruiser which has no rotting, known product? For what cracking?

I agree with jwmll. I started replacing my original Michelin's with two new Michelin on the front(thru FMCA). One tire started going bad on a trip within 18 months and less than 10,000 miles. (vertical bulge on one tire's side wall) I felt this was a defect and Michelin has a 5 year warranty on defects. I stopped at 3 Michelin dealers on my way home, all said the same thing. Michelin will say " they don't make defective tires" and there is little chance the bad tire would be replaced. I got home , took the bad tire to the local Michelin dealer , they removed and inspected it and reported what they found to Michelin. Michelin then requested the tire be sent to their inspection center. It now 6 months later. No response from them at all. My conclusion , then don't back up their product. This summer I purchased 4 more new tires, TOYO's.

The thing is that manfacturers have factories all over the world. It is a world market any more. I had Michelins when new and the lasted flve years, the last two sets have been Toyo's and I would never buy any thing but Toyo's. They are very good tires also.

fredbon wrote:
Sorry, my bet is not on entry level tires manufactured in China. Warranties at Les Schwab's is a good thing, but after you have experienced a catastrophic event the warranty may leave you feeling empty. So you went from a known good product to a ????? over the highway truck tire???? to save $1,000?

Fred

There's always a party pooper, nay sayer, kill joy ,etc. I applaud you for thinking a little differently and trying something different and then making others aware so that they may be able to make an informed decision. The Michelin runaway tire pricing does not reflect the quality in their tires. It does reflect excess pricing and laughs at those who continue to make a financial gift of their dollars for an overpriced item.

Sorry, my bet is not on entry level tires manufactured in China. Warranties at Les Schwab's is a good thing, but after you have experienced a catastrophic event the warranty may leave you feeling empty. So you went from a known good product to a ????? over the highway truck tire???? to save $1,000?

Fred

Very nice. I am waiting on new Michelins. Saving $1000 sure sounds good though!

OK, what brand and what size? What did you replace with?
I went 7 years on my front tires and 10 on my rear because they were made in Germany so they were not the sorry Goodyear RV tires(295/80/22.5) Replaced with 315/80 Firestone on the front and 11R22.5 Hankook on the rear.