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Lngbeard
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Dec 11, 2013

Trans cooler installation.

Hi all,
I wanted to be proactive to see if I could keep my automatic tranny alive for the long haul. I have a 27 ft Chateau sport with the 4R100 trans. I am the second owner and decided to bite the bullet and go with synthetic transmission fluid. I also installed a electric fan stacked plate cooler in a non-typical location. Here's how it went, The lay out:

I then used a hole saw for the corners. I anguished long and hard before cutting into my MH.

Finished the hole with a jigsaw where I could. Sealed the edges with Eternabond.

Here's the cooler from the inside. Lots of room. Protected from debris and gets unimpeded airflow.

And a perforated metal screen installed.

Finally a gauge to keep a eye on temps.

Have not exceeded 170 yet so The fan has not kicked on as far as I know.Hope this helps if anyone is looking to add a cooler.
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  • wolfe10's avatar
    wolfe10
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    Dec 11, 2013
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    I agree on covering the secondary trans cooler in winter.

    Also, best routing is from transmission through secondary cooler to factory cooler and back to the transmission. That can keep fluid from being too cold.
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    TNRIVERSIDE
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    carringb wrote:
    PS - I'm not trying to imply the added cooler isn't a good idea. It is!

    But for winter driving, you may want to cover it if the transmission is not getting up to temp.


    If your additional cooler is in series with your factory cooler it should not let the trans run too cool. The factory trans coolers have a thermostat to not allow the fluid to circulate through the cooler until the trans gets to the operating temp. It will then open and close to regulate the trans fluid at the correct temp. The installation look great to me. Nice job.
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    carringb
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    PS - I'm not trying to imply the added cooler isn't a good idea. It is!

    But for winter driving, you may want to cover it if the transmission is not getting up to temp.
  • carringb's avatar
    carringb
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    The transmission needs to periodically run over 170F to keep moisture down. I've seen more 4R100s fail from never getting up to operating temp, than running too hot. Mine runs around 200F when towing in warm weather, and will exceed 230F on steep climbs when my combined weight is over 20,000 pounds.

    I have 366,000 now and the transmission is still in great shape. About 200,000 of those are towing miles. I do a full transmission fluid exchange every 100,000 miles.
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    Lngbeard
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    NTORACN wrote:
    A unique location to say the least. I think I would have installed it in front of the radiator if it were me. I had 105,000 miles on my 4R100 tranny when I sold the RV last year. I serviced the tranny at 100,000 miles and there was no debris in the pan, I mean none. Great tranny!! If your tranny never ran over 190-195 degrees, you didn't need to add the cooler.

    I could not squeeze the cooler in there behind the trans cooler, AC rad,stock tranny cooler and power steering cooler. I also felt airflow was very restricted in the usual place. yeah,,It may be overkill but I do make some steep, long hot climbs with toad in eastern Washington state.
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    Lngbeard
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    sljkansas wrote:
    Nice install. The thing you will need to watch(since it site behind the front wheel)is that the fan and cooler stay clean. your going to throw a lot of dirt and water at it, being where it is mounted.

    The running boards and mud flaps do a great job of blocking the road debris. I did find a ding in the screen so something did hit it though.
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    NTORACN
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    A unique location to say the least. I think I would have installed it in front of the radiator if it were me. I had 105,000 miles on my 4R100 tranny when I sold the RV last year. I serviced the tranny at 100,000 miles and there was no debris in the pan, I mean none. Great tranny!! If your tranny never ran over 190-195 degrees, you didn't need to add the cooler.
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    sljkansas
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    Nice install. The thing you will need to watch(since it site behind the front wheel)is that the fan and cooler stay clean. your going to throw a lot of dirt and water at it, being where it is mounted.
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    Lngbeard
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    CKNSLS wrote:
    You can OVER COOL a transmission.

    Heat is what kills a tranny. As we usually only use the MH in the summer I believe I am usually in the 140-170 range.
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    Lngbeard
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    Mich F wrote:
    I'd hope you won't be running below what the normal operating temperature should be.

    So far it is anywhere between 140-170. I prefer to err on the cool side. Heat is what kills transmissions.

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I wanted to be proactive to see if I could keep my automatic tranny alive for the long haul. I have a 27 ft Chateau sport with the 4R100 trans. I am the second owner and decided to bite the bullet and go with synthetic transmission fluid. I also installed a electric fan stacked plate cooler in a non-typical location. Here's how it went, The lay out:

I then used a hole saw for the corners. I anguished long and hard before cutting into my MH.

Finished the hole with a jigsaw where I could. Sealed the edges with Eternabond.

Here's the cooler from the inside. Lots of room. Protected from debris and gets unimpeded airflow.

And a perforated metal screen installed.

Finally a gauge to keep a eye on temps.

Have not exceeded 170 yet so The fan has not kicked on as far as I know.Hope this helps if anyone is looking to add a cooler.","body@stringLength":"1579","rawBody":"Hi all,
I wanted to be proactive to see if I could keep my automatic tranny alive for the long haul. I have a 27 ft Chateau sport with the 4R100 trans. I am the second owner and decided to bite the bullet and go with synthetic transmission fluid. I also installed a electric fan stacked plate cooler in a non-typical location. Here's how it went, The lay out:

I then used a hole saw for the corners. I anguished long and hard before cutting into my MH.

Finished the hole with a jigsaw where I could. Sealed the edges with Eternabond.

Here's the cooler from the inside. Lots of room. Protected from debris and gets unimpeded airflow.

And a perforated metal screen installed.

Finally a gauge to keep a eye on temps.

Have not exceeded 170 yet so The fan has not kicked on as far as I know.Hope this helps if anyone is looking to add a cooler.","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2013-12-11T10:02:09.000-08:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"TagEdge","cursor":"MjUuMnwyLjF8b3wxMHxfTlZffDE","node":{"__typename":"Tag","id":"tag:Class C","text":"Class C","time":"2002-02-25T19:07:57.000-08:00","lastActivityTime":null,"messagesCount":null,"followersCount":null}}]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:904272_1"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":4465},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"searchSnippet":"Hi all, I wanted to be proactive to see if I could keep my automatic tranny alive for the long haul. 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Also, best routing is from transmission through secondary cooler to factory cooler and back to the transmission. That can keep fluid from being too cold.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-12-11T13:50:50.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-12-11T13:50:50.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":493},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:904272/message:904286","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"222","rawBody":"I agree on covering the secondary trans cooler in winter.

Also, best routing is from transmission through secondary cooler to factory cooler and back to the transmission. That can keep fluid from being too cold.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:904286_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:101551":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:101551","uid":101551,"login":"TNRIVERSIDE","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2013-11-05T14:06:31.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-1.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:101551"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:904285":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:904285","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:904285":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:101551"},"id":"message:904285","revisionNum":1,"uid":904285,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:904272"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:904272"},"subject":"Re: Trans cooler installation.","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:904285"},"body":"
carringb wrote:
PS - I'm not trying to imply the added cooler isn't a good idea. It is!

But for winter driving, you may want to cover it if the transmission is not getting up to temp.


If your additional cooler is in series with your factory cooler it should not let the trans run too cool. The factory trans coolers have a thermostat to not allow the fluid to circulate through the cooler until the trans gets to the operating temp. It will then open and close to regulate the trans fluid at the correct temp. The installation look great to me. Nice job.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-12-11T13:37:48.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-12-11T13:37:48.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":493},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:904272/message:904285","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"606","rawBody":"
carringb wrote:
PS - I'm not trying to imply the added cooler isn't a good idea. It is!

But for winter driving, you may want to cover it if the transmission is not getting up to temp.


If your additional cooler is in series with your factory cooler it should not let the trans run too cool. The factory trans coolers have a thermostat to not allow the fluid to circulate through the cooler until the trans gets to the operating temp. It will then open and close to regulate the trans fluid at the correct temp. The installation look great to me. Nice job.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:904285_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:120418":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:120418","uid":120418,"login":"carringb","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2003-07-28T08:06:50.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-11.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:120418"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:904284":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:904284","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:904284":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:120418"},"id":"message:904284","revisionNum":1,"uid":904284,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:904272"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:904272"},"subject":"Re: Trans cooler installation.","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:904284"},"body":"PS - I'm not trying to imply the added cooler isn't a good idea. It is!

But for winter driving, you may want to cover it if the transmission is not getting up to temp.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"170","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-12-11T12:11:55.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-12-11T12:11:55.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":493},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:904272/message:904284","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"178","rawBody":"PS - I'm not trying to imply the added cooler isn't a good idea. It is!

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I have 366,000 now and the transmission is still in great shape. About 200,000 of those are towing miles. I do a full transmission fluid exchange every 100,000 miles.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-12-11T12:10:35.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-12-11T12:10:35.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":493},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:904272/message:904283","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"478","rawBody":"The transmission needs to periodically run over 170F to keep moisture down. I've seen more 4R100s fail from never getting up to operating temp, than running too hot. Mine runs around 200F when towing in warm weather, and will exceed 230F on steep climbs when my combined weight is over 20,000 pounds.

I have 366,000 now and the transmission is still in great shape. About 200,000 of those are towing miles. I do a full transmission fluid exchange every 100,000 miles.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:904283_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:904282":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:904282","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:904282":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:90240"},"id":"message:904282","revisionNum":1,"uid":904282,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:904272"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:904272"},"subject":"Re: Trans cooler installation.","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:904282"},"body":"
NTORACN wrote:
A unique location to say the least. I think I would have installed it in front of the radiator if it were me. I had 105,000 miles on my 4R100 tranny when I sold the RV last year. I serviced the tranny at 100,000 miles and there was no debris in the pan, I mean none. Great tranny!! If your tranny never ran over 190-195 degrees, you didn't need to add the cooler.

I could not squeeze the cooler in there behind the trans cooler, AC rad,stock tranny cooler and power steering cooler. I also felt airflow was very restricted in the usual place. yeah,,It may be overkill but I do make some steep, long hot climbs with toad in eastern Washington state.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-12-11T11:54:29.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-12-11T11:54:29.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":132},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:904272/message:904282","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"699","rawBody":"
NTORACN wrote:
A unique location to say the least. I think I would have installed it in front of the radiator if it were me. I had 105,000 miles on my 4R100 tranny when I sold the RV last year. I serviced the tranny at 100,000 miles and there was no debris in the pan, I mean none. Great tranny!! If your tranny never ran over 190-195 degrees, you didn't need to add the cooler.

I could not squeeze the cooler in there behind the trans cooler, AC rad,stock tranny cooler and power steering cooler. I also felt airflow was very restricted in the usual place. yeah,,It may be overkill but I do make some steep, long hot climbs with toad in eastern Washington state.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:904282_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:904281":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:904281","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:904281":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:90240"},"id":"message:904281","revisionNum":1,"uid":904281,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:904272"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:904272"},"subject":"Re: Trans cooler installation.","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:904281"},"body":"
sljkansas wrote:
Nice install. The thing you will need to watch(since it site behind the front wheel)is that the fan and cooler stay clean. your going to throw a lot of dirt and water at it, being where it is mounted.

The running boards and mud flaps do a great job of blocking the road debris. I did find a ding in the screen so something did hit it though.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-12-11T11:49:54.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-12-11T11:49:54.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":110},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:904272/message:904281","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"394","rawBody":"
sljkansas wrote:
Nice install. The thing you will need to watch(since it site behind the front wheel)is that the fan and cooler stay clean. your going to throw a lot of dirt and water at it, being where it is mounted.

The running boards and mud flaps do a great job of blocking the road debris. 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I think I would have installed it in front of the radiator if it were me. I had 105,000 miles on my 4R100 tranny when I sold the RV last year. I serviced the tranny at 100,000 miles and there was no debris in the pan, I mean none. Great tranny!! 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I think I would have installed it in front of the radiator if it were me. I had 105,000 miles on my 4R100 tranny when I sold the RV last year. I serviced the tranny at 100,000 miles and there was no debris in the pan, I mean none. Great tranny!! 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The thing you will need to watch(since it site behind the front wheel)is that the fan and cooler stay clean. your going to throw a lot of dirt and water at it, being where it is mounted.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"200","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-12-11T11:42:28.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-12-11T11:42:28.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":110},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:904272/message:904279","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"200","rawBody":"Nice install. The thing you will need to watch(since it site behind the front wheel)is that the fan and cooler stay clean. your going to throw a lot of dirt and water at it, being where it is mounted.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:904279_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:904278":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:904278","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:904278":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:90240"},"id":"message:904278","revisionNum":1,"uid":904278,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:904272"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:904272"},"subject":"Re: Trans cooler installation.","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:904278"},"body":"
CKNSLS wrote:
You can OVER COOL a transmission.

Heat is what kills a tranny. As we usually only use the MH in the summer I believe I am usually in the 140-170 range.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"169","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-12-11T11:36:43.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-12-11T11:36:43.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":110},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:904272/message:904278","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"200","rawBody":"
CKNSLS wrote:
You can OVER COOL a transmission.

Heat is what kills a tranny. As we usually only use the MH in the summer I believe I am usually in the 140-170 range.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:904278_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:904277":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:904277","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:904277":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:90240"},"id":"message:904277","revisionNum":1,"uid":904277,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:904272"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:904272"},"subject":"Re: Trans cooler installation.","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:904277"},"body":"
Mich F wrote:
I'd hope you won't be running below what the normal operating temperature should be.

So far it is anywhere between 140-170. I prefer to err on the cool side. Heat is what kills transmissions.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-12-11T11:34:59.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-12-11T11:34:59.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":110},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:904272/message:904277","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"240","rawBody":"
Mich F wrote:
I'd hope you won't be running below what the normal operating temperature should be.

So far it is anywhere between 140-170. I prefer to err on the cool side. 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