Truck Conversions...

I think the M1 is a class 7 and the M2 is a heavy duty chassis and a class 8....I could be wrong.

I'm hoping that as the market grows for truck conversions....and it is....that these resorts will realize they are every bit as nice as MOST of the class A coaches that go to the resorts. I never understood why this problem exists. My coach MSRP is north of $500K yet the guy next to me in his 8 year old gasser that is maybe $50-60K is allowed and I am not.

I do enjoy occasionally going to a real full service resort such as the class A only are..not all the time...but every now and then on a trip we want to splurge. When we go to Florida we stay mainly at campgrounds that accept just about any motorhomes and fifth wheels but when we go to Naples each year we enjoy the signature resort to spoil ourselves for a couple of weeks.

I've seen many of the "white box" conversions there each year. Haulmark's, Renegades, showhaulers ect.....Last year, we had what looked like a home made big white box truck parked right next to a prevost........Can't we all just get along....LOL

How about the big white box trucks? Renegade, Haulmark, Showhauler etc. They are expensive and luxurious Class 8/Super C units also. I really doubt that these snotty Class A only resorts would like a few of those in regardless of how they were classified. :)

Isn't the Jayco Embark on the M2 chassis a Class 7 truck?

For the asking price of a class 8 conversion, they should be on par with class As for "motorcoach resorts".

HiTech wrote:
I think I read somewhere that some manufacturers are calling them Class A's on the title on purpose, so it allows them to go into Class A only campgrounds.

Jim

Maybe just for laughs I'll test that theory when we leave for Florida this year.......might get a chuckle out of it.

I think I read somewhere that some manufacturers are calling them Class A's on the title on purpose, so it allows them to go into Class A only campgrounds.

Jim

I think these "Truck Conversions" are really super C's. Whether its a Class 8 or a Ford E350, class C's are all built the same way. You get a chassis with nothing on the back and a full cab on the front. The manufacturer just builds the coach. It really comes down to price.

You have the same problem with class A's. Some gassers can be bought for less than $100,000 and some cost over a million.

The problem is the owners. An owner of a RV that costs over $200,000 is a bit different than someone like me, who bought an old piece of junk for $3000.

HiTech wrote:
I'd go the other way. Once a cutaway is heavier duty than you would typically use to to create an ambulance (in the short wheel base version), I'd call it a truck conversion, then just specify what class truck as a sub category. The problem is all truck conversions I have seen are also cutaways, and as currently defined, any cutaway is a Class C. If you preserve the truck cab, you have a C.

The real problem is the snobbery used try and distinguish RV types and only allow certain ones. It is always going to let in some lower units and exclude some higher units.

Jim

Your point is well taken and hence lies the problem........the "definition" of a class C using the cutaway theory was fine UNTIL manufacturers started using over the road truck chassis to make motorhomes. In traditional terms class C's all had "van" style front ends....then they introduced the Kodiak chassis on the gulfstream endura years ago and called that a "Super C". Others followed.

The first thing we have to do is all start talking the same......over the last 2 years, more and more owners are using the term "truck conversion" or class 8 truck conversion" to better explain what they own. Like on the IRV2 forums they have a "truck conversion" forum though it doesn't have much activity at all. I believe RV.NET is a more vibrant community and would have more activity.

The funny thing is on my Dynamax Title it says CLASS A MOTORHOME....don't know if it is a typo or not but the interesting thing would be to show up at some of the "snob" resorts and try to gain entry......show title, says class A. They may have a bit of a legal issue if they didn't let me in but then again who the heck wants to be at a campground that everyone looks down their nose at you.

I'd go the other way. Once a cutaway is heavier duty than you would typically use to to create an ambulance (in the short wheel base version), I'd call it a truck conversion, then just specify what class truck as a sub category. The problem is all truck conversions I have seen are also cutaways, and as currently defined, any cutaway is a Class C. If you preserve the truck cab, you have a C.

The real problem is the snobbery used try and distinguish RV types and only allow certain ones. It is always going to let in some lower units and exclude some higher units.

Jim

Yes, it is hard to find a clear forum to lurk A or C. yes we need our own place to post.

Dave

HiTech wrote:
I think by the definition of a Class C, your vehicle would also be considered a class C. Truck conversions of any type (medium duty too) are unique and interesting. They seem worthy of a forum. Getting a new forum takes a lot of work.

Jim

In my opinion the Kodiak chassis is a super C....the Jayco embark built on the M2 chassis would be a truck conversion. The whole idea is that the CLASS 8 TRUCK CONVERSIONS are not C's or Super C's and hence warrants their own classification and forum. There has been some discussion from manufacturers of having the true truck conversions reclassified as CLASS A COACHES. That will take a lot of work. On a positive note, the Signature Resorts in Naples and in Bay Harbor Michigan ALLOW truck conversions in their class A only resorts. Nice Job!!! I've been in discussions with other class A only parks to consider amending the by-laws and bring them up to the current markets. When most of them where written, there was no such thing as a class 8 truck conversion in the marketplace. I'm waiting to hear back from Riverbend in Florida (a great rv resort) who is going to take up this question during the 2013 season and see if there is a willingness to ammend the by -laws. I spent 8 years going to riverbend in my old class A and loved it. My new Dynamax is every bit as luxurious and nice as most of the coaches there.