Trying to figure out how to get my front wheel simulator back on. Tire shop took the wheels off to replace the tires, then couldn't get it back on. Problem is, the simulators are held on by nuts attached to the wheel studs, but once the main lug nuts for the wheels are on, there's only 1 thread left on the stud. Install the simulator, and there's not enough threads to even bite into a nut. I bought new stainless steel nuts thinking the edges on the old ones were stripped enough to not bite, but that didn't work either. Only options I see are longer studs or thinner wheel nuts. Online and Ford dealer could only find original studs, (not sure how long stock studs are without taking whole thing apart). Thinner lug nuts might work, but reluctant to reduce strength of said nuts since they hold the wheel on and 14k worth of rig rolling down the road loosing a front wheel is pretty scary. There's got to be some way to fix this? With all the rigs running down the road are they all about ready to fall off?

Well if they fit before but not now, what changed? What's that spacer behind the lugnut? Is that causing it?

Only options I see are longer studsCorrect.Be sure to take a lug nut with you. Because I think Ford had 3 thread "pitches" or threads count per inch around time frame of your RV in your sig line.In your pic... notice torque poundage stamped into the end of nut? Talk about "fine print".(just measured mine) On my Harbor Freight digital caliper...measured from wheel rim to end of lug nut is 1.82 inch.Of course length might depend on what brand of simulator you have?(Spacer behind nut is OEM disapates psi?)

Why didn't the tire shop put the wheel covers back on? Did the covers get bent taking them off?Take it back and have them finish the job you paid them to do.

Why didn't the tire shop put the wheel covers back on? Did the covers get bent taking them off?Take it back and have them finish the job you paid them to do. They tried, said nuts were stripped. Shop I used normally does my regular cars, tires are the same as I had on my van which I've been pretty happy with. Not sure I can blame them for the covers not fitting on correctly unless some of the nuts are thinner or something. Took it to les schwab, they couldn't/wouldn't do anything either. Ford truck place as unhelpful as well. Might have the rv place look at it when I take the unit in to have them look at the generator. (mechanic there is a real grump though)

Always, always remove your simulators yourself before taking it to a tire shop. It is very simple and easy to do and it is very common to get an inexperienced tire man that doesn't realize the frailties of the attachment nuts. Invariably they will strip the threads of the simulator nut when they reinstall them. You have to get the proper nut that has no chamfer on the starter thread. You will notice the proper nut is quite flat on the side that starts onto your stud. You do not need to alter the wheel nuts, nor should you, to make that work. This is what you need, but make sure you get the right ones for your studs. Lazydays has people at a phone desk for questions..https://accessories.lazydays.com/dicor-v195p7ejn-enclosed-jam-nut-17-0020

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Travelin2
Explorer
Jul 15, 2017
Always, always remove your simulators yourself before taking it to a tire shop. It is very simple and easy to do and it is very common to get an inexperienced tire man that doesn't realize the frailties of the attachment nuts. Invariably they will strip the threads of the simulator nut when they reinstall them. You have to get the proper nut that has no chamfer on the starter thread. You will notice the proper nut is quite flat on the side that starts onto your stud. You do not need to alter the wheel nuts, nor should you, to make that work. This is what you need, but make sure you get the right ones for your studs. Lazydays has people at a phone desk for questions..https://accessories.lazydays.com/dicor-v195p7ejn-enclosed-jam-nut-17-0020
photobug
Explorer
Jul 15, 2017
Why didn't the tire shop put the wheel covers back on? Did the covers get bent taking them off?
Take it back and have them finish the job you paid them to do.

They tried, said nuts were stripped. Shop I used normally does my regular cars, tires are the same as I had on my van which I've been pretty happy with. Not sure I can blame them for the covers not fitting on correctly unless some of the nuts are thinner or something. Took it to les schwab, they couldn't/wouldn't do anything either. Ford truck place as unhelpful as well. Might have the rv place look at it when I take the unit in to have them look at the generator. (mechanic there is a real grump though)
Tyler0215
Explorer
Jul 15, 2017
Why didn't the tire shop put the wheel covers back on? Did the covers get bent taking them off?
Take it back and have them finish the job you paid them to do.
path1
Explorer
Jul 15, 2017
Only options I see are longer studs

Correct.

Be sure to take a lug nut with you. Because I think Ford had 3 thread "pitches" or threads count per inch around time frame of your RV in your sig line.

In your pic... notice torque poundage stamped into the end of nut? Talk about "fine print".

(just measured mine) On my Harbor Freight digital caliper...measured from wheel rim to end of lug nut is 1.82 inch.

Of course length might depend on what brand of simulator you have?

(Spacer behind nut is OEM disapates psi?)
turbojimmy
Explorer
Jul 15, 2017
Well if they fit before but not now, what changed? What's that spacer behind the lugnut? Is that causing it?

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