Dish Network - No Network feeds after 2/25/2014

CA Traveler wrote:

This signal is sent only once and only when the Dish rep. gets your request. If your receiver is off-line at this time it's most likely that the change will not happen unless you get yourself online and call again.

Can you expand more on how this works and is DTV similar? Is there a dedicated frequency/channel that receivers monitor for changes? What happens when a subscription is stopped? Does the sat company send the signal on a periodic basis to turn off the channel viewing or?

Once a receiver is on line and working there is no need to send any sort of update information but if a receiver goes for somewhere around 30 days without seeing a signal from the satellite (RV stored, dish stowed, etc.) then the only way to restore the receiver to life is for Dish or DirecTV to send a reactivation signal. For DirecTV that means they will send the signal via the 101 and Dish uses 119. If you make any changes to your service Dish or DirecTV must send that change via satellite but the change request is only send once. If the receiver is not online the receiver will not receive the request and nothing happens until you get it online, call back and have the request sent again.
If it is just a reactivation request, DirecTV allows you to go online to your DTV account and send the request yourself but Dish has no similar option. If you want to change your services you may be able to do some of this online (with the receiver connected) with DirecTV and Dish but any kind of service address change needs to be handled by a phone call and a representative or, in the case of Dish, their online chat feature and a representative.

If the companies really wanted to accommodate people changing locals, they would put this function on their website. Something tells me either that will happen, or they will stop or limit the number of times you can ask them to do this.

This signal is sent only once and only when the Dish rep. gets your request. If your receiver is off-line at this time it's most likely that the change will not happen unless you get yourself online and call again.

Can you expand more on how this works and is DTV similar? Is there a dedicated frequency/channel that receivers monitor for changes? What happens when a subscription is stopped? Does the sat company send the signal on a periodic basis to turn off the channel viewing or?

full_mosey wrote:

Bobbo wrote:
I think the working answer for this OP is, enjoy your locals. When they stop working, call DISH, tell them you have moved your RV, and they will fix it.

Repeat.

You need to go back and read the Original Poster's post. :)

HTH;
John

OK, I think the working answer for this Hijacker is, enjoy your locals. When they stop working, call DISH, tell them you have moved your RV, and they will fix it.

Repeat.

I could care less what you do. I am only suggesting that you let us know if what you did worked or not. There are many people doing many different things. Some work and some do not. I just report the news reported by many, but maybe many have never tried what your propose and I am completely off-base. I am just asking that you report the results of the procedure you set in place.

Bill.Satellite wrote:

full_mosey wrote:

How about this as an alternative to clear this 'home' issue. We are leaving for Corpus Christi Mar 22.

After we unplug the VIP211k receiver, pack the Tailgaiter and are travelling, we will call Dish and ask them to change our location to Corpus Christi. At this time we will NOT be locked on to any satellite. Dish will have no way to know from where we are calling and since the reciever is off, there can be no communication back to Dish from the receiver. Will this clear up the 'must be first locked on at the new location' requirement you claim is a prequisite?

When we set up at Padre Island National Seashore's Malaquite campground we will post the status.

Then we will know what you mean by 'properly' and whether Dish needs 'very specific' location data. Heck, I can give them GPS coordinates right now that will get within 100yds. Is that specific enough?

HTH;
John

First, Dish cannot use GPS info to change your location (yes, they could, but no, they will not).
Second, "might that work"? Maybe, but I doubt it. The reason I say you first need to be online is that the only way your receiver gets updated is when Dish sends a signal via satellite to your receiver. This signal is sent only once and only when the Dish rep. gets your request. If your receiver is off-line at this time it's most likely that the change will not happen unless you get yourself online and call again.
I don't mean for this to be a contentious conversation and I am always willing to learn a new technique. If you want to give that a try and it works, please let us know. However, based upon past experience, I don't believe you will have gained anything (you still have to call) and you might add an additional level of complication.

I also do not mean to be contentious.

According to my wife, she called Dish while I was fueling in Alpine, TX. We were on our way to Big Bend and were worried about cell service in BB. According to her, Dish set us up for Odessa with an address of 1 Panther Junctionin BB. We got TV just fine in Rio Grande Village which is 20m East of the VC. Neither of us recalls noticing location info in the news or commercials. We did not contact Dish while in BB. At this time, we may not understand what happened except to believe what we recall is a clear opposite of what you are saying.

A scientist will never claim that anything is settled. If that were true, the world would be flat and the sun would orbit around the earth.

I am willing to test. In order to test your comments/experiences, what would you prefer I do?

HTH;
John

full_mosey wrote:

How about this as an alternative to clear this 'home' issue. We are leaving for Corpus Christi Mar 22.

After we unplug the VIP211k receiver, pack the Tailgaiter and are travelling, we will call Dish and ask them to change our location to Corpus Christi. At this time we will NOT be locked on to any satellite. Dish will have no way to know from where we are calling and since the reciever is off, there can be no communication back to Dish from the receiver. Will this clear up the 'must be first locked on at the new location' requirement you claim is a prequisite?

When we set up at Padre Island National Seashore's Malaquite campground we will post the status.

Then we will know what you mean by 'properly' and whether Dish needs 'very specific' location data. Heck, I can give them GPS coordinates right now that will get within 100yds. Is that specific enough?

HTH;
John

First, Dish cannot use GPS info to change your location (yes, they could, but no, they will not).
Second, "might that work"? Maybe, but I doubt it. The reason I say you first need to be online is that the only way your receiver gets updated is when Dish sends a signal via satellite to your receiver. This signal is sent only once and only when the Dish rep. gets your request. If your receiver is off-line at this time it's most likely that the change will not happen unless you get yourself online and call again.
I don't mean for this to be a contentious conversation and I am always willing to learn a new technique. If you want to give that a try and it works, please let us know. However, based upon past experience, I don't believe you will have gained anything (you still have to call) and you might add an additional level of complication.

Dutch_12078 wrote:
Your location is never transmitted back to Dish from the receiver, no matter what is connected or turned on or not. You must personally contact Dish customer service via phone or chat to change your location to receive the local channels for that area. Dish just needs a valid address within the spot beam pattern to tell your receiver what channels it can receive. It doesn't even need to be your specific address, as long as it's within the pattern where you're located. The "locked on" requirement is so your receiver can receive the updated data it needs to allow you to see the channels in your program guide and select them for viewing.

Just for fun, let me add to it: your receiver has an address, like a phone number. Dish's satellite sends a signal to that address. It says, "Here's a message for receiver BR-549 - stop letting this fellow watch Valley Locals and start letting him watch Corpus locals instead."

Remember, your dish and receiver are already seeing lots of channels it isn't letting you watch - like maybe HBO or Spanish language programming that you aren't paying for. If you call Dish and say, "I want to add Spanish language programming" they will charge you and the satellite will send a message to BR-549 authorizing it to let you start watching those channels.

Or something like that.

Your location is never transmitted back to Dish from the receiver, no matter what is connected or turned on or not. You must personally contact Dish customer service via phone or chat to change your location to receive the local channels for that area. Dish just needs a valid address within the spot beam pattern to tell your receiver what channels it can receive. It doesn't even need to be your specific address, as long as it's within the pattern where you're located. The "locked on" requirement is so your receiver can receive the updated data it needs to allow you to see the channels in your program guide and select them for viewing.

Bobbo wrote:
I think the working answer for this OP is, enjoy your locals. When they stop working, call DISH, tell them you have moved your RV, and they will fix it.

Repeat.

You need to go back and read the Original Poster's post. :)

HTH;
John