Dish Network

I guess I will find out Friday if I still get local channels on my dish setup.
bumpy

Right. For Dish customers, they will have to jump through hoops and DirecTV customers will not. That's a service I am more than willing to pay for. I would hate to have to call DirecTV 20-30 times per year just so I can watch the Networks.
I am not sure where the OTA discussion comes in here since everyone, with or without satellite can watch FREE OTA TV.

As an aside, the DNS was scheduled to end at midnight but as of this moment, it has not and Dish customers are still receiving the DNS programming.
We will always remain on opposite sides of this fence. I am more than happy to pay for convenience since I move my RV at least once a week and sometime a couple of times per week. That means I am going to be out of a markets service area more often than most RVers.

Bill.Satellite wrote:
What TechWriter wants or uses and what I want and use can vary dramatically. The reality is the the DNS Networks are going, going, gone for Dish customers. There certainly are options, but none are as convenient as the DNS option.

Let's look at this another way . . .

How Do RVers Receive Network Programming (ABC, CBS, etc) as They Travel?


(1) OTA (Over-The-Air) programming (FREE) -- using a batwing or similar antenna to receive local TV stations.

This is an option for both DISH & DirecTV users. However, it's not a dependable option as reception may be poor for some or all local stations.


(2) Local TV Stations via Satellite (FREE) -- getting local network programs through your sat antenna.

This is an option that's really only available for DISH users. DISH lets you change the local TV stations as you travel. DirecTV does not.


(3) East and West Coast programming ($$$) -- this is DNS (Distant Network Service).

This option is only available to DirecTV users.


So what network programming (ABC, CBS, etc) options do DISH and DirecTV users currently have?

- For DISH users, local TV stations via sat. FREE.

- For DirecTV users, DNS. $$$.

What TechWriter wants or uses and what I want and use can vary dramatically. The reality is the the DNS Networks are going, going, gone for Dish customers. There certainly are options, but none are as convenient as the DNS option. Even if the arguement is "all it takes is a call", that's still more effort than necessary when the DNS option means you don't have to do anything!
Even if all things were as TechWriter likes to assume, I like to watch the Today show every morning but I often have to be at work by 8am. I tape the show from the East Coast feed (while I am on the West Coast) and I get to watch nearly the entire show before I leave for work instead of having to tape it while I am working and watch it the following day.
It's just a matter of choice. No one choice is correct. But I know what the one and only correct choice is for me. Everyone else just has to decide what the right choice if for them.
Just for a moment, let's step away from the RV market. Dish is "supposed" to provide Network programming to ALL of their customers. However, not all of the Dish customers are served by a local Network feed. That means that many Dish HOME customers receive their programming via DNS. With this new AAD debacle, those customers will not be able to watch ANY Network programming either via satellite or via OTA TV. What good comes of that?

Bill.Satellite wrote:
While TechWriter likes to type "wrong", the poster prior to that stated that Dish is ending their DNS (Distant Network Services) and that is very TRUE!

TechWriter typed "wrong" because wa8yxm's post was incorrect.
After DNS ends, DISH users will still be able to get NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX (+ others).

Bill.Satellite wrote:

TechWriter is correct that there is another way to receive the Network programming with a bit of work on the end users part . . .

A phone call.

Bill.Satellite wrote:

As of midnight tonight, ALL Dish DNS customers "should" lose ALL Network programming. This problem will likely get resolved by Dish in the foreseeable future, but tomorrow will likely find a number of Dish customers who have not been paying attention scratching their heads (or posting here) as to what the heck has happened!

Probably true. But many of them will also be surprised how easy it is to get network programming by just calling DISH and changing their Service Address. And it's free.

TechWriter wrote:

Horizon170 wrote:
Murphy38, be careful about putting the receiver in a closed cabinet as it will need air circulating around it. Just my opinion but I keep ours in the open on a wire shelf.

If you have a USB port on your receiver that you aren't using, think about using a USB fan.

Live and Learn, I didn't now about that. Thanks

While TechWriter likes to type "wrong", the poster prior to that stated that Dish is ending their DNS (Distant Network Services) and that is very TRUE! TechWriter is correct that there is another way to receive the Network programming with a bit of work on the end users part, but the loss of DNS Networks is a real issue and one that will take a non-issue and make it an issue for Dish customers.
As of midnight tonight, ALL Dish DNS customers "should" lose ALL Network programming. This problem will likely get resolved by Dish in the foreseeable future, but tomorrow will likely find a number of Dish customers who have not been paying attention scratching their heads (or posting here) as to what the heck has happened!

TechWriter wrote:

murphy38 wrote:
What is the best non auto dish to use when traveling from east to west coast?

If you're talking about a dish on a tripod, then a 1000.4. It can use either Western or Eastern arc LNBs.

This might confuse some to think a 1000.4 antenna can be used for either WA or EA satellites. While the same reflector can be used, the arm and LNB would need to be swapped when you change satellite selections as the 1000.2 and 1000.4 setups are not the same.

murphy38 wrote:
Will I Have to change from Eastern to Western LNB's as we cross the country?

Probably sooner or later. Generally, using higher elevation sats is better than lower elevation ones because it is easier to "shoot" over bushes, trees, buildings, etc.

As you travel west, the elevations for Western Arc sats (110, 119, and 129) go up, but as you travel east the elevations go down. It's the reverse for the Eastern Arc sats (61.5, 72.7, and 77).

For example, for my current ZIP code 86403, the elevation of the Western Arc sats is about 50 degrees, but for the Eastern Arc sats it's about 30 degrees. For this ZIP code, much easier to get a good signal with Western Arc sats.

wa8yxm wrote:

Dish is shortly (If not already) back to being not able to offer Distant Network Service so if you drive too many miles from home... NO ABC, NBC, CBS, et-al.

Wrong.

When you get out of range of your home locals, you just call DISH and have them change your Service Address to the address of your current campground.

The new locals will show up in your guide in a few minutes. You repeat this process when you drive out of range of the current TV local stations.

It's discussed in this thread Dish Network - No Network feeds after 2/25/2014.