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Mondooker
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Dec 22, 2015

What's the story with "No TOAD on the road"?

I want to buy a small DP somewhere in the 30 - 34 foot range and so far have come up with the following. Not sure yet about new or used!

33’ Thor Palazzo
34’ Forest River Berkshire & Legacy
31 to 34’ Tiffin Alegro
34’ Winnebago Forza & Solei

With a motorhome that size is it reasonable to go without a TOAD? Let me share my thoughts and you tell me if I’m out to the lunch bunch?

I don’t want to see the USA in my car, I want to see it from the big windshield of my motorhome. And I’ve not been many places where you couldn’t find a place to park a motorhome to walk downtown and see the sights for a few hours. Or pull into a grocery store parking lot for food etc. I can understand the inconvenience of hooking & unhooking the lines of the motorhome but pulling a TOAD can have its own inconvenience right?

We would most likely be on the road a few months a year stopping at places of interest for a week or so. We also have friends and family around the country, most where we can park the motorhome during our stay. From what I’ve seen and checked out so far the 30 to 34 feet should give us enough room without giving cabin fever yet small enough to get in and out of places.

I hope I’ve given enough information so you know our plans and thought process. So how bad is it really to not have a TOAD? I know I’m talking theory here, what’s the real world view I need to be looking at?

Thanks so much

28 Replies

  • Tried it - did it without a toad for most of the trip. Missed so many places we wanted to see while enroute because we were too big or there were no rentals available. Got to Las Vegas and rented a small Chevy. Some much freedom even though we were staying on the Strip. We do not trip now w/o a towed.
    I believe you will find the same inconveniences we did.
  • Grit dog wrote:
    Well you can certainly get by without one so give it a try. Worst possible outcome is you get a hitch for your car and start pulling it.


    This.... You can plan your trips such that the need for a car is minimal. For those times where you need a ride you can rent and many rental agencies now pickup and deliver you back.

    We have decided that when we get our new mh we will set the car up for towing, but will also when planning a trip decide if we need one or not. If for instance we decide to go back to WDW, the car stays home.

    On the flip side, we did have a breakdown at a state park 20 miles from home. Wife had brought the car. So when the tow truck came, the mh went one way, we another.
  • While you can get by without a toad. Traveling from CG to CG in a motorhome is easy . But sightseeing in a MH can be a hassle.
    You will have to beware of every turn. Parking maybe available but not convenient. A simple 1-way street can cause havoc.
    I often use my dually pick up truck to site see. In metro areas or high volume tourist areas my dually can be a headache a MH will only be worse.
    Keep it convenient you will enjoy yourself more vs. having the burden of traveling in a huge vehicle. A MH was a designed to do a lot of things, however site seeing isn't one of them!
    Think of it like getting gas. With a car any station will do however with a MH you will have to plan your fuel stops accordingly.
    Consider all MH's have toads for convenience sake. Every MH you see could make an alternative plan to get around vs.a toad.
    However in the end a toad is the easiest most convenient solution.
    Why reinvent the wheel!
  • Alternatives near cities are
    Enterprise $9.99 a weekend day if available in the area you are in or other sale rental. I just rented a car in NYC for $32.00 a day including taxes unlimited mileage
    Finding a WalMart parking lot with service to center of city.An example is Nashville where almost all the Walmarts have service to the city center for $1.25.
    Find a park and ride to the city. For example I believe the Berwyn station near Chicago can accommodate your rig.
    Find a campground with bus service. Both Nashville and Washington DC have Campgrounds with bus service.
    Last you can find a place within walking distance of things. Casa Grande Arizona has a few campgrounds like this most notably Fiesta Grande which is mid way between Walmart and Fry's grocery about 1/2 mile away from either.

    I travel without toad and just a little bit of planning is needed
  • I can't imagine being without a toad on the road. What happens when:

    1. You're out of beer?
    2. You get in the refer to fix dinner and find out the tomatoes for the salad have gone bad? It's either no salad for the night or disconnect the MH to go to the store?
    3. You pull into the parking area at Mt Rushmore and there's no parking places left for a MH, but there's plenty for cars? Do you skip Mt Rushmore?
    4. You go down to Canyon Land in southern Utah and you can't go down over the edge of the canyons like everyone else because you can't do it in a MH.
    5. You're camped in Oregon and you hear there's high surf warnings so you want to go down the road (to a safe area) and take pictures of the surf. You're going to pull up the MH for that and then try to find a place on the side of the road to park, and then turn the MH around?
    6. You're camped in Redwood areas, you aren't going to see a lot because the good LITTLE sightseeing roads don't accommodate MHs. Or if you do try to squeeze down them, you're so busy watching the road, the very large trees on the side of the road that your mirror is about hit and other traffic that you can't do any sightseeing, let alone suddenly pulling over to take some neat pictures of the sunlight coming down through the redwoods.
    7. Back to the Mt Rushmore area - you can't fit a MH on the Iron Mountain Hwy or the road up to Needles. Two great areas that you're going to miss. Why did you go to that area of the country if you can't see the best sights?
    8. You're in Yellowstone and you want to pull over to take pictures of the buffalo, elk, rivers, etc, and you can can't because the pull offs are very small - no room to pull over a MH.
    9. You're in the southwest - what are you going to do, just stay on the paved roads? If you're going to, then you're wasting your time down there.
    10. You're in an RV park for several days and the sink faucet is leaking so you decide to work on it. While you bought what you thought you needed to fix it, in the end you need more parts or stuff. What do you do then, pack up and unhook everything to make a run to the RV parts store or Home Depot?
    11. You want to go eat at a restraint. How many good restaurants have parking for your MH? Or, if you get parked, when you go to leave and other cars have parked around you so that you can't get out. What if you want a burger from Burger King, how many of them can you get your MH into?
    12. You need to take your MH into a shop for some work that will take a day or two. Are you going to sit there in their waiting room (if they have one) or go rent a car?

    Sure you can get by without a toad, I just wouldn't find it an enjoyable trip at all and would rather stay home.

    Bill
  • A 30-34 foot MH will not fit in a normal parking space in any parking lot. We have been to many national and state park visitor centers that do not have RV parking. Some do but there are enough that don't and many attractions do not have RV parking either. You will also find that very few trailheads have RV parking. 99.8% of the time our motorhome moves, it has Libby behind it. We travel about seven months of the year and normally put many more miles on Libby than the MH. Once you get to a destination, its much better to have a toad than not!
  • Well you can certainly get by without one so give it a try. Worst possible outcome is you get a hitch for your car and start pulling it.