Don't drink...coffee and drive

bigred1cav wrote:
Such behavior by a LEO would result in the LEO being suspended or fired.You should have filed a complaint with the agency the Officer was employed by. No PD would tolerate such behavior. Well possibly Dump Truck, Al or Resume speed Miss.?

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Such behavior by a LEO would result in the LEO being suspended or fired.You should have filed a complaint with the agency the Officer was employed by. No PD would tolerate such behavior. Well possibly Dump Truck, Al or Resume speed Miss.?

bigred1cav wrote:
Why would does it hurt to be polite? When stopped any officer has three options of handling the incident precipitating the stop. Give the driver a warning and send him on his way. Give the offender a citation and send him on his way or the offender may choose door number three. Get your ass out the vehicle assume the position you're going to jail do not pass go do not collect $200 your car is also going to jail and your passengers just became pedestrians.

CavemanCharlie wrote:

portscanner wrote:
The only time I had to stand in front of the man was when I was stopped for doing 60 in a 55.

Forgot how much it cost me (I think it was < $100 - yes it was some time ago) but had the speedometer certified as being wrong (it was - I had aftermarket oversize wheels and tires)

Went to court had watched about 20 other people in front of me plead their case. In each case 2 things happened - one - it was obvious that they had argued with the Florida Highway Patrol and second - guilty and here is your fine.

They called me up. My case took less than 5 seconds. The FHP looked at his notes and said, "I dont remember this." Judge "Dismissed."

The day I got the ticket I said a total of four words to the FHP. "Have a nice day." Nothing else. I gave the FHP nothing to remember our exchange.

You have the right to remain silent. Take advantage of it.

Any LEO have any comments on my exchange?

(and no - I did not even have to show my speedometer was incorrect)

Yup, the less you say the better. Be polite and respectful. Even if it hurts and you don't feel like being that way.

CavemanCharlie wrote:

bigred1cav wrote:
Why would does it hurt to be polite? When stopped any officer has three options of handling the incident precipitating the stop. Give the driver a warning and send him on his way. Give the offender a citation and send him on his way or the offender may choose door number three. Get your ass out the vehicle assume the position you're going to jail do not pass go do not collect $200 your car is also going to jail and your passengers just became pedestrians.

CavemanCharlie wrote:

portscanner wrote:
The only time I had to stand in front of the man was when I was stopped for doing 60 in a 55.

Forgot how much it cost me (I think it was < $100 - yes it was some time ago) but had the speedometer certified as being wrong (it was - I had aftermarket oversize wheels and tires)

Went to court had watched about 20 other people in front of me plead their case. In each case 2 things happened - one - it was obvious that they had argued with the Florida Highway Patrol and second - guilty and here is your fine.

They called me up. My case took less than 5 seconds. The FHP looked at his notes and said, "I dont remember this." Judge "Dismissed."

The day I got the ticket I said a total of four words to the FHP. "Have a nice day." Nothing else. I gave the FHP nothing to remember our exchange.

You have the right to remain silent. Take advantage of it.

Any LEO have any comments on my exchange?

(and no - I did not even have to show my speedometer was incorrect)

Yup, the less you say the better. Be polite and respectful. Even if it hurts and you don't feel like being that way.

I said that incorrectly and I apologize.

I have been in situations where I felt I was not braking the law, and the officer himself, was very rude and crabby. When I was younger a crabby person, swearing at you , even if wearing a uniform, can make you want to do something stupid. I didn't . That is why I made it to 51 and haven't been to prison yet.

I was just trying to encourage people to be polite in every opportunity. Even if the officer is not being polite.

This is true no matter who they are. (police officer or not) But, sometimes it is not easy. And, to me that can hurt. A personal flaw of mine.

Caveman, I couldn't agree with you more! We recently had to make a police report (first time in my life, other than a couple of minor accidents). After filing the report, we talked to the young officer about a couple of different things, just shooting the breeze. He told us he had just come from a traffic stop, where a driver was obviously distracted and happened to be on a cell phone. The woman pulled over started ranting and at the end told the officer "I'll see you in court!" He told us, he couldn't wait to see her in court, and you can bet she'll be found guilty!

amdriven2liv wrote:
Talk about distracted driving. Here is the one that I saw, that beats most.

Driving across I-80 in Wyoming. Station wagon is passing me, I can't see the driver. I'm thinking I must be looking at my mirror image wrong. As the car gets to me, I see the driver is reclined in the driver's seat napping. His wife, is steering the car, and she is reading a book.

I wonder who would get the "distracted driving" ticket?

That just sounds like something out of a movie!

Talk about distracted driving. Here is the one that I saw, that beats most.

Driving across I-80 in Wyoming. Station wagon is passing me, I can't see the driver. I'm thinking I must be looking at my mirror image wrong. As the car gets to me, I see the driver is reclined in the driver's seat napping. His wife, is steering the car, and she is reading a book.

I wonder who would get the "distracted driving" ticket?

bigred1cav wrote:
Why would does it hurt to be polite? When stopped any officer has three options of handling the incident precipitating the stop. Give the driver a warning and send him on his way. Give the offender a citation and send him on his way or the offender may choose door number three. Get your ass out the vehicle assume the position you're going to jail do not pass go do not collect $200 your car is also going to jail and your passengers just became pedestrians.

CavemanCharlie wrote:

portscanner wrote:
The only time I had to stand in front of the man was when I was stopped for doing 60 in a 55.

Forgot how much it cost me (I think it was < $100 - yes it was some time ago) but had the speedometer certified as being wrong (it was - I had aftermarket oversize wheels and tires)

Went to court had watched about 20 other people in front of me plead their case. In each case 2 things happened - one - it was obvious that they had argued with the Florida Highway Patrol and second - guilty and here is your fine.

They called me up. My case took less than 5 seconds. The FHP looked at his notes and said, "I dont remember this." Judge "Dismissed."

The day I got the ticket I said a total of four words to the FHP. "Have a nice day." Nothing else. I gave the FHP nothing to remember our exchange.

You have the right to remain silent. Take advantage of it.

Any LEO have any comments on my exchange?

(and no - I did not even have to show my speedometer was incorrect)

Yup, the less you say the better. Be polite and respectful. Even if it hurts and you don't feel like being that way.

I said that incorrectly and I apologize.

I have been in situations where I felt I was not braking the law, and the officer himself, was very rude and crabby. When I was younger a crabby person, swearing at you , even if wearing a uniform, can make you want to do something stupid. I didn't . That is why I made it to 51 and haven't been to prison yet.

I was just trying to encourage people to be polite in every opportunity. Even if the officer is not being polite.

This is true no matter who they are. (police officer or not) But, sometimes it is not easy. And, to me that can hurt. A personal flaw of mine.

Why would does it hurt to be polite? When stopped any officer has three options of handling the incident precipitating the stop. Give the driver a warning and send him on his way. Give the offender a citation and send him on his way or the offender may choose door number three. Get your ass out the vehicle assume the position you're going to jail do not pass go do not collect $200 your car is also going to jail and your passengers just became pedestrians.

CavemanCharlie wrote:

portscanner wrote:
The only time I had to stand in front of the man was when I was stopped for doing 60 in a 55.

Forgot how much it cost me (I think it was < $100 - yes it was some time ago) but had the speedometer certified as being wrong (it was - I had aftermarket oversize wheels and tires)

Went to court had watched about 20 other people in front of me plead their case. In each case 2 things happened - one - it was obvious that they had argued with the Florida Highway Patrol and second - guilty and here is your fine.

They called me up. My case took less than 5 seconds. The FHP looked at his notes and said, "I dont remember this." Judge "Dismissed."

The day I got the ticket I said a total of four words to the FHP. "Have a nice day." Nothing else. I gave the FHP nothing to remember our exchange.

You have the right to remain silent. Take advantage of it.

Any LEO have any comments on my exchange?

(and no - I did not even have to show my speedometer was incorrect)

Yup, the less you say the better. Be polite and respectful. Even if it hurts and you don't feel like being that way.

Western Morning News say a Harvard study says the way to lengthen life is 3 to 4 cups of coffee a day.
The Regulators are trying to shorten our life. :)

portscanner wrote:
The only time I had to stand in front of the man was when I was stopped for doing 60 in a 55.

Forgot how much it cost me (I think it was < $100 - yes it was some time ago) but had the speedometer certified as being wrong (it was - I had aftermarket oversize wheels and tires)

Went to court had watched about 20 other people in front of me plead their case. In each case 2 things happened - one - it was obvious that they had argued with the Florida Highway Patrol and second - guilty and here is your fine.

They called me up. My case took less than 5 seconds. The FHP looked at his notes and said, "I dont remember this." Judge "Dismissed."

The day I got the ticket I said a total of four words to the FHP. "Have a nice day." Nothing else. I gave the FHP nothing to remember our exchange.

You have the right to remain silent. Take advantage of it.

Any LEO have any comments on my exchange?

(and no - I did not even have to show my speedometer was incorrect)

Yup, the less you say the better. Be polite and respectful. Even if it hurts and you don't feel like being that way.

fj12ryder wrote:

Tvov wrote:

westend wrote:
I had a recent learning experience while in Traffic Court with #1 Son. Out of the 50 cases dealt with that afternoon, only one had any assistance from a judge. The rest were all bargained out at the desk of the Prosecuting Attorney. Judging by the looks on faces after the bargaining session, the Laws were pretty much upheld.

I don't know if it's that way in other areas but they took a pretty strong line in our area. If you're charged, you're presumed guilty. The only variance seemed to be in amount of fine and payment arrangements.

I think it is that way in the majority of traffic courts.

Yeah, many traffic courts are more about revenue generation than much else.

In my area most of the court appearances are about revenue generation and not about anything else. It has become so bad the kids these day grow up thinking that going to court (and even spending time in jail ) is considered a normal part of life.

It disgusts me.