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- In Tn Oklahoma,Ark and some others, I don't remember the list, It is ok to be in the Left lane but you must move over and not block traffic.
Semis are the worse. Even paining no Semis on the roadway left lane on three lane Interstate they still do it and cause a backup for miles.
Oklahoma has signs on each side of the roadway on Interstates requiring you to move to the right if you are going slower than the traffic.
Essentially left lane is to pass but if you are moving faster than the right lane ok just don't block traffic.
I noticed the immediate difference when we left Oklahoma on I40 into Arkansas. The semis blocked the road both or all lanes. Micro passing or talking with neighbor semi driver?
Same in Tn except the areas where the road has the signs painted on it and Tn Law now requires on three lane Interstates that semis to stay out of left lane, or must move over when other traffic is being blocked. They don't care. I75, I40, and I24 an the others are two lane for most of their lengths and semis refuse to stay in right lane behind a California semi governed to 65.
In Florida it will be a tough call for Trooper as all lanes are usually packed. Governed semis are a major contributor to the congestion I think. Also those that drive left lane to their exit to get out of the backup and then on the brakes maneuvering to the right lane. wnjj wrote:
azrving wrote:
Idiocracy, we have arrived. The person who is abiding by the law is now the problem. You can't make this sheet up.
Where do you think the laws come from? When the norm changes, often too does the law. It's just a bit slower to come around.
Also, someone driving the speed limit but violating a left lane law doesn't meet the definition of "abiding by the law".
I'm talking about the people who tow at 55 as required in Cali as supposedly being the dangerous ones when idiots come flying up behind them. Again, you can't make up the stupidity that is sometimes posted in here.mgirardo wrote:
Georgia enacted a similar law a few years ago. I've never seen it enforced.
In GA, the idea is to keep traffic flowing. Someone hogging the left lane causes traffic to slow down. It's not to reward speeders, it is to keep traffic flowing in an effort to reduce accidents.
-Michael
The GA law is a little different. It's not a stay out of the left lane except to pass, but is a yield to faster vehicles. If you are not holding up anyone you can drive in the far left lane all you want.
Problem is in GA (especially in Atlanta), speed limits are not even a suggestion anymore. If you go the speed limit even in the right lane, you will get ran over and cussed by everyone and you will be holding up traffic. We locals joke about I-285 around Atlanta being a NASCAR training ground. And don't think about leaving more than 3' between your car and the one ahead of you or 3 people will try and get into that space.
Not as bad outside Atlanta (but the Atlanta area is getting huge).
Back on topic, I'm not really sure how the GA law about yielding to faster vehicles applies "officially" if you are already over the speed limit in the far left lane. Are you expected to yield to those Nascar trainee wann-a-bee's? I don't know, but I do just as I would rather have those non-drivers in front of me than on my bumper.azrving wrote:
Idiocracy, we have arrived. The person who is abiding by the law is now the problem. You can't make this sheet up.
Where do you think the laws come from? When the norm changes, often too does the law. It's just a bit slower to come around.
Also, someone driving the speed limit but violating a left lane law doesn't meet the definition of "abiding by the law".- Idiocracy, we have arrived. The person who is abiding by the law is now the problem. You can't make this sheet up.
GordonThree wrote:
Ahh the old time favorite...
"I'm just keeping up with traffic"
...just another justification speeders tell themselves
It's also what police understand and well, pretty much any other normal person that understands getting along in a society. Life isn't always about clear cut laws.- Ahh the old time favorite...
"I'm just keeping up with traffic"
...just another justification speeders tell themselves azdryheat wrote:
Many times there is far too much traffic for one lane. When driving between Tucson and Phoenix traffic has to be in both lanes, no way that much traffic could fit in a single file.
I think driver's should be able to choose their lane, after all, they're paying road taxes for all of the lanes. If someone is holding up traffic in one of the lanes then they should be dealt with rather than banning everyone from a lane.
Nobody is actually "banned" from anything. In MI, the law is, right lane unless passing slower traffic. If the right lane is full of slow traffic, you are passing them, so you stay in the left lane. But when the road is not crowded, they expect to see you in the right lane.ken56 wrote:
This is why I like more assisted driving features on vehicles. These features will make people better drivers. If just 1 in 5 vehicles would drive correctly the rest could get by a lot better. Trouble is the roads very often look like the final lap at Daytona 500 all tailgated and speeding together.
All this talk about moving back into the right lane, lol. If people would leave a proper safe following distance between vehicles it may be possible, most times it's not. Biggest thing I have noticed is that as soon as I leave a lane, left OR right lane, someone is there to fill the gap and prevent you from changing lanes even if you wanted to. Tailgating is the major cause of impeding traffic because no one can change lanes. No one pays attention or cares what that blinking light on the back of my trailer is.
I passed a semi one time on I 40 and at a reasonable distance ahead of the truck I put on the turn signal and looked in my mirror, no one there, started moving over and noticed a car on the shoulder. Idiot tried to pass me on the right so quick I never saw him until he was on the shoulder. You just can't fix stupid. People refuse to let you change lanes.ScottG wrote:
D.E.Bishop wrote:
We have we have what is termed a safe and prudent speed regulation. If the speed limit is 55mph for a vehicle towing, and the average speed in the right lane is 65, then it is neither safe nor prudent to drive at exactly 55 mph.
That's good to know. I haven't towed in Ca. for quite some time but when I towed the TT down there, it was plain to see that driving only 55 when everyone else is doing 70~100+ was stupid dangerous. I towed at 65 and was passed by just about everyone but at least they wern't coming up on me like I was standing still. Before I spead up, I had people having to make last second lane changes to get around me. Very dangerous.
I'm not sure if D.E. is implying that it's considered OK to speed if everyone else is, but I can assure you the CHP does not share that view lol.
I've lived and towed in CA for over 20 years, and I tow at 58-60mph. Right about the speed of all the truckers. It is neither abnormal or unsafe. Yes, I'll wick it up to 70 to complete a pass, but then tuck back in and drop back to my 58. But I accept that if I happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and a CHP radars me at 70 while I'm passing, I may be getting a ticket.
