electric PU that can tow 11,000lbs

time2roll wrote:
Wait until someone finds out it get 70 MPGe empty and 30 towing.

/rolleyes

Also, it has unicorn farts.

you can't take this thing seriously. Tesla at least has had years of R&D and somewhat successful cars. This is the first I've heard of it, so I asked around the floor - the credit analysts haven't heard of it either.

Towing what, exactly? 11,000 pounds maximum weight. Ok, assume for the sake of argument we tow 6000 pounds. How long before the batteries overheat in 100 degree weather while running maximum AC? Ok, so now it's got some kind of cooling/heating system like Tesla. That'll take a chunk out of capacity too. And if Tesla can barely manage a 315 mile range and we all assume they're doing miracles in battery tech, how will this new company do 400 mile range?

Also - you'll be limited to L3 chargers IF you're running on the Interstate (assuming this ever gets built) and L2 chargers - um, where would those be? in larger cities?

Otherwise I can see what someone else pointed out - campgrounds will require you to buy a 50 amp service just to charge your truck, as it's going to cost them a lot more in electric capacity.

Oh wait, perhaps they could use Powerwalls...

This is actually something I'd like to see, an electric pickup. But there's no way the infrastructure can be built out that easily.

Anyway - my long-winded point is this:

If it seems too good to be true, it usually is.

lets see 400 miles (projected) unloaded. towing a ultralight trailer. maybe 300 miles range (giving a lot here). then park for 12-18 hrs recharge. that's going to cost you two days camp.
say six months travel time. a gasser, or diesel will do round trip in two weeks time.
truck should be ok for city folk, as no fuel burnt waiting for every red light.
but still got to burn coal to make the power to recharge the batteries.

I would be shocked if it got 60 mile range pulling a 11k travel trailer (as opposed to a low flatbed type trailer). Then again 400 mile range is only a prediction not a tested fact. I can announce I am developing a truck with a 2000 mile range...until I actually put it out, it's just talk.

Plus with a 1760lb payload....an 11k trailer will have around a 1500lb tongue weight...leaving 260lb for passengers and other cargo. At least the current 1/2 ton trucks can be configured to get north of 2000lb payload, so you can legitimately tow 10-11k trailers.

free radical wrote:

2 the spare tire under the bed is idiotic,how will you change flat with load in the bed

A play right out of the Honda Ridgeline playbook.

1) I see working guys with short beds all day long.
2) Call road service. Besides the load typically will be little to nothing same as so many diesel duallys I see every day.
3) At a public L3 charging station en-route or an L2 destination charging station. OK they do not cover every square inch but more are going in every day. www.plugshare.com

camp-n-family wrote:
Clicky

1 bed is too small,if truck doesnt have 8 foot box its useless to a workingman
2 the spare tire under the bed is idiotic,how will you change flat with load in the bed?
Designed by someone who never used a truck obviously.

3 where will one Recharge it traveling long distance?

Thats 3 points down right there,still I hope they can build it

mowermech wrote:
As with all electric vehicles, I need to know how far it will go at night, in a snowstorm, at 20 below zero, with lights, heat, defrost, wipers, etc. running full blast.
Of course, I also need to know how far it will go between charges in 105 degree heat, with air conditioning running.
Now, add a Travel Trailer with a GVW of 10,750 lbs. to the mix, plus 5 190 pound people and a couple hundred pounds of tools and miscellaneous.
NOW how far will it go on a full charge, and how long weill it take to fully re-charge it?
It is always easy to brag about how wonderful something is under ideal conditions, but what about in the real world where we all live, where the conditions are often (if not usually) less than ideal?

This is how Tesla car handles winter..

https://youtu.be/D2gmphV8IZQ

How Rivian truck will perform is anyones guess right now..

Id wait for Tesla truck,for one they have 11.000 Superchargers out there so going long distance is no problem and their tech is way ahead of anyone else..

DutchmenSport wrote:


Comment 2:
There was a thread just in the last few days on these forums where someone brought up the issue of a campground that was charging more for 50 amp service opposed to 30 amp service for members vs non-members. This bring up an interesting point? If you're going to use an "electric" truck for camping purposes...if that be a truck camper or towing anything... everyone will want to plug in their "electric" autos for recharging. Well... if campgrounds are squabbling over charging different rates for 30 vs 50 amp service, what will they do when folks plug in their autos? OH MY... that's another whole new can of worms being opened!

Heres a real life info on cost of charging Tesla driving 1000 miles cost the dood 12$ worth of juice..how much can a CG charge?

https://youtu.be/_druzFXjZAc

SidecarFlip wrote:

d3500ram wrote:
Towing, schmowing....meh.

...being a TC'er I am interested in what weight can be put in the bed and the rated 1,760-pound payload puts it into the class of an electric grocery getter.

Battery packs are heavy, even LI packs.

Perhaps, but a "fuel source type engine" does not account into payload... that is, a Cummins does not factor in to final payload, it is accounted for in the data for calculating the final tare. Sure, A gas engine in a like truck will have more payload than the its diesel counterpart. That said, a heavy battery truck such as this one does not leave much for work loads. I am interested in the final leftover number after all infrastructure of the truck is factored in... this one 'aint much.

What good is a 7,600# truck if three-quarters of that is battery. Sure, it needs to be engineered to carry its own power source, but what good is the left over payload other than running down to the Walgreens to grab a box of tampax for its owner.

My response was purposely snarky in that I wilt not take seriously an electric pick up unless it can do actual work in not only towing but carrying as well.

They lost me at $61,000. I've bought two brand new diesel 4wd 3500 trucks in my life. Both were under $40,000. If I option out a brand new crew cab diesel dually with 4wd just the way I want it the MSRP is about $54,000 from either RAM or GM. There's no way I'd pay anywhere close to $61,000 for an electric half ton.