Gas $$$.

The gas by me just went up by 20 cents per gallon in a 24hr period

I keep wondering why someone does not make an EV with like a Yahama EF-3600I in the "Trunk" this way you can re-charge as you drive or lift the EF out and power your house in a power fail (Via a proper generator tranfer switch)

For short trips you leave the Yahama locked in the garage.. Only use it for long trips or "Opps I forgot to recharge".

There are already several electric cars that can manage the 240 miles round trip.

down home wrote:
They are not practical out here in the hinder lands. 240 miles round trip to Dr.
I20 miles the other direction and heavy traffic in both directions.
The AC cut ff when you stopped in the only one I've ridden in a Toyota, about ten years ago. Heat takes a lot of electricity too.
We have been stuck in snow for a very long time returning from Nashville one year I have been trying to keep up with developments on electric vehicles but cold can decrease mileage, by as much as 60% I read in one report and real hot can suck down mileage too. I have no desire to go back to the old days bundled up to keep warm with little to no heat in the vehicle or with the windows open in 100degree heat.
Whatever form the storage of energy it takes the same amount for the same job.
Whenever the get the energy density of storage of energy near equivalent of gas then it will be more practical. At that point you will be sitting on one powerful bomb that technology hasn't licked yet.
One would be alright if the store, Doctors and other things were within the range of an electrical vehicle under the worse circumstances. Otherwise it would spend most of its time in our garage.

AC doesn’t cut out when vehicle is stopped. We typically lose about about 1/3 of our range in a typical winter day. But we have mild winters here so may be worse for some. Minus 20 is a VERY cold day here in winter.

Gotta day though, either of our EV’s are the best winter vehicle we have ever had. Instant heat and lots of it, pre-heat (or cool) from the iPhone. But then again our longest ever commute is 120 km with most being a third of that. Works for us. Not for everybody

Yes 240 miles to see a doctor would be a PITN no matter what you drive.
Still might work for others. My doctor is less than 10 miles.

Maybe soon there would be a charging station at the doctor office.

The cold does sap a lot of range. Heat not near as much.

Slow driving in traffic typically increases range.

They are not practical out here in the hinder lands. 240 miles round trip to Dr.
I20 miles the other direction and heavy traffic in both directions.
The AC cut ff when you stopped in the only one I've ridden in a Toyota, about ten years ago. Heat takes a lot of electricity too.
We have been stuck in snow for a very long time returning from Nashville one year I have been trying to keep up with developments on electric vehicles but cold can decrease mileage, by as much as 60% I read in one report and real hot can suck down mileage too. I have no desire to go back to the old days bundled up to keep warm with little to no heat in the vehicle or with the windows open in 100degree heat.
Whatever form the storage of energy it takes the same amount for the same job.
Whenever the get the energy density of storage of energy near equivalent of gas then it will be more practical. At that point you will be sitting on one powerful bomb that technology hasn't licked yet.
One would be alright if the store, Doctors and other things were within the range of an electrical vehicle under the worse circumstances. Otherwise it would spend most of its time in our garage.

myredracer wrote:
Here in our part of Canada, gas is almost $5 US/gal. It WILL go up over the summer because it always does. Some say it's an economist's supply/demand thing and while I know there's more to it than that, the gas companies use whatever tools and excuses they can to charge us premium prices. Pretty hard for many people who commute to work every day and those who drive for a living to cut down on gas consumption.

That's why the supply/demand excuse falls flat for me. The vast majority of fuel use is not optional, and while prices may rise and fall, there is never a shortage of fuel at the pumps.

myredracer wrote:
Here in our part of Canada, gas is almost $5 US/gal. It WILL go up over the summer because it always does. Some say it's an economist's supply/demand thing and while I know there's more to it than that, the gas companies use whatever tools and excuses they can to charge us premium prices. Pretty hard for many people who commute to work every day and those who drive for a living to cut down on gas consumption.

The BC government has stated that they want all vehicles sold here by 2040 to be electric. I have to wonder what an electric pickup truck will be like and if it has anywhere near the payload and towing capacities in today's trucks. A large percentage of vehicles around here are pickups - to heck with CAFE standards or saving the planet.

I also have to wonder what electric capacity there will be from power companies to handle so many electric vehicles and what the carbon increase will be. Also, what will be the costs and implications to provide the infrastructure for charging stations everywhere. I even heard the other day that they are proposing that in the near future that all newly constructed buildings won't be able to use any natural gas for heating and hot water and will have to be 100% electric. I think a lot of this is driven by politics and has not been properly addressed from a technical perspective.

BC hydro website is a good resource for some of those questions. Total increase to grid if all private vehicles switch to Electric is 19 percent load increase. Total extra capacity right now is 30 percent and growing. 98 percent

https://www.bchydro.com/powersmart/electric-vehicles/bc-hydro-electric-vehicles.html

Here in our part of Canada, gas is almost $5 US/gal. It WILL go up over the summer because it always does. Some say it's an economist's supply/demand thing and while I know there's more to it than that, the gas companies use whatever tools and excuses they can to charge us premium prices. Pretty hard for many people who commute to work every day and those who drive for a living to cut down on gas consumption.

The BC government has stated that they want all vehicles sold here by 2040 to be electric. I have to wonder what an electric pickup truck will be like and if it has anywhere near the payload and towing capacities in today's trucks. A large percentage of vehicles around here are pickups - to heck with CAFE standards or saving the planet.

I also have to wonder what electric capacity there will be from power companies to handle so many electric vehicles and what the carbon increase will be. Also, what will be the costs and implications to provide the infrastructure for charging stations everywhere. I even heard the other day that they are proposing that in the near future that all newly constructed buildings won't be able to use any natural gas for heating and hot water and will have to be 100% electric. I think a lot of this is driven by politics and has not been properly addressed from a technical perspective.

A 2019 GMC Terrain SUV is rated at 29 MPG city and 38 MPG highway. That is much more fuel efficient than any small car from a decade or two ago. Fuel prices are rising not only because the price of crude has risen, but also because the costs of labor have risen. There is a shortage of oil field workers. There is a shortage of drivers for fuel delivery trucks. The corner convenience/gas store has trouble finding employees. All those rising costs play into the price of a gallon of fuel. Then there is the fact that several states saw the depressed price of fuel as an opportunity to raise the taxes on fuel and fly under the public radar.
We will likely see more increases down the road. The fact that vehicles are more fuel efficient now than in the past has had a detrimental effect on the tax revenues collected by the Federal Government for highway funds. Those taxes have always been cents on the gallon. More fuel efficiency means more miles of wear and tear per gallon spreading those tax revenues thinner and thinner. Add in electric vehicles and it is even worse. A day of reckoning is coming.