Just an FYI here, but I have a payload rating of 2176lbs. My dry pin is 1385lbs. All loaded up I'm at 9000lbs on the 5'er. My pin randomly weighs in around 17-1800lbs. That puts my GVW total at 9800lbs. My RAWR is only 6000lbs (tire limited). My RAW is 4900lbs when hitched up. It's just the wife and I and we carry very little in the truck. If we do it's maybe 150lbs of firewood or two full 7 gal water jugs. We carry about 1500lbs+/- in the 5'er.
If I go buy the RAWR then I have an extra 500lbs for pin to be under the RAWR with a small cushion. But that puts me over the GVW by 700lbs. I'm still way under the tow rating and GCVWR.
If you're looking at 5'ers with UVW's of 119280lbs or 12,000lbs for figuring then figure 1000-1500lbs if stuff (average of 1250lbs) so 13,250lbs loaded. That puts you pin at 2700lbs (@20%)
That's 616lbs over GVW not including you and the wife and whatever else.
So add 300lbs for the two of you, now you have 3000lbs of payload. 916lbs over payload.
IMO 11,000lbs or less loaded is a good weight to keep payload within reason. You won't be able to use the payload rating of the truck and get anything very heavy. Only way you can make it work for something other than a lite version 5'er is to use the RAWR
The problem with 3/4 tons diesels is the low payload.
