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willald
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Apr 17, 2013

Idling engine while towing questions

..We now have two toads: DW's daily driver, a Kia Sedona van (that has Remco lube pump to allow towing), and my daily driver, a Ford Fusion Hybrid (flat-towable from the factory, woohoo!) Reality is that we will probably tow my Fusion most trips, as it is easier and a lot more fun. However, there still will be trips where we'll want the extra space the van offers, and will want to be able to bring/tow the van.

Due to several things that have happened that I'd rather not go into in detail, we do not trust the lube pump setup on the van anymore. It is not in any way Remco's fault, they have a great product that works great when properly installed (ours was not, bottom line, haha). Horrible luck we've had with a poor installation is the main reason we've lost confidence in the lube pump.

That being the case, until our confidence is restored in the lube pump, I am seriously considering taking the approach of disconnecting the lube pump and idling the van (in neutral) on the rare occasions we tow it (maybe once or twice a year).

I've searched, and read numerous threads about folks that have had success taking this approach (idling a toad in neutral when towing). I understand fully that it means miles will be logged, and the bad things that can happen if the engine dies or overheats. I'm willing to accept that risk, given how rare it is we will do this, and how rock solid and reliable the drivetrain in this van has always been for us.

My only question/concern with this practice, is whether or not the Kia's transmission will circulate fluid through the cooler when it is in neutral. If not, I will obviously scrap this idea. If it does, then I'm thinking this idling approach should work OK.

Anyone have any specific experience or knowledge that would indicate whether or not a 2007 Kia Sedona's transmissions would circulate fluid when in neutral?

I've already tried talking to Kia technicians, and basically got no real answer. Next option (which I may well do), will be to take a fluid line loose from the cooler while idling in neutral, and see if fluid flows. Thats probably what I'll have to do, to be sure (any other ideas on what I can do, to find out for certain that fluid is flowing through cooler when in neutral?)

On a separate, but related question: You think there'd be ANY market at all on Craigs list or wherever, for a like new, Remco LP-1 Lube pump setup? Enough, to be worth the time and $$ it'd cost to remove the lube pump setup entirely from the van and put it up for sale? :)
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  • gbopp wrote:
    Why not just have the lube pump properly installed? You feel it's a great product and there is nothing wrong with the pump.


    Well, it is properly installed, *NOW*, as best I can tell, and works fine. Problem is, even though it works, I'm having a hard time trusting it. :)

    The issues we had due to it NOT being installed right initially, has kind of done some 'psychological damage' and caused us to lose trust in the pump. Thats why I'm considering idling the engine as a backup solution.

    ...Without getting into too many details of why we have lost trust in the pump, suffice it to say: Something about turning on a pump, and watching it spew all your tranny fluid out like a GEYSER all over everything (because technician didn't attach output hose correctly)....an 'image' like that kinda sticks in your head, and makes it tough to trust the unit out on the road, haha.

    Will
  • Why not just have the lube pump properly installed? You feel it's a great product and there is nothing wrong with the pump.

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