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Joel_T
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Jan 12, 2015

Is being a little over GVWR no worse than doing 60 in a 55?

We're struggling between a Lance1985 and a 2285 and to add to that struggle are concerned about our RAM1500 tow capabilities. Many, maybe a majority, are pulling 1985s and 2285s size TTs, 4500 to 5000lb dry weight, 6K max, with half tons. I'd be well under axle loads and tow max but only slightly under GCWR. But, I figure I might be over GVWR 2 to 400lbs, not much but....

I'd wager many are over GVWR if they load their 1/2 tons with anything at all yet claim "great" towing, Is being a little over GVWR no worse than doing 60mph in a 55?
  • It's not a big deal. If you are going to do a ton of traveling maybe not. If you are more local dont worry about it. Maybe you can upgrade the truck after awhile. At that point the truck could probably have a cap, carry lots of extras and be well under max and be an easy pull.

    As you use it just consider what you are doing. Take it easy, slow down, dont head for the mountains all the time. Be on top of your brake maintenance and keep the trailer brakes in adjustment. Keep your cargo to a minimum and dont let the junk creep in on you. Keep enough water in it to get you to your destination and always dump for the trip home. That's a very nice looking TT and being a Lance it's probably a good build.
  • Will a couple over hurt?...nope, however, I like to stay within the numbers, especially when I have loved ones traveling with me. If I were to get into an accident where I had thoughts my weight was the problem, I would have a hard time living with that.

    Cale
  • I wouldn't worry about being a little over GVWR as long as you don't exceed any tire limits. Braking won't be quite as good, but slowing down will easily compensate for that.
  • My last truck was rated for the maximum weight of my FW and I had some problems. The truck had plenty of power, but the brakes would overheat in stop and go traffic. I lost my brakes going down through the smokies into Gatlinburg and it took me forever to get stopped using the emergency brake and trailer brakes. I had to run off on the should to keep from hitting a car that was stopped in front of me. The other issue I had was when I was backing up a slight incline the transmission overheated and started blowing out fluid.
  • GVWR is 6900 but each axle is 3900. I'm at 6600lbs with 2 adults, 3 dogs, 2 kayaks on a canopy and a small amount of gear. I'm (totally) guessing another 600lbs for an 800lb tongue weight which puts me over. Tow max is 7900 and GCVW is 13500 for our Ram1500 / 5.7hemi / CC / 4x4.
  • All vehicle manufacturers are required to certify to the Federal Government that their vehicles comply with all Safety and Emission standards on the date of manufacture (read the label on your door).
    GVWR is the MAXIMUM weight at which the manufacturer will stand behind the vehicle in meeting those regs.
    If you go over GVWR your truck is NOT going to fall apart but be aware of the following possible (but unlikely) scenarios:
    • You may wear out driveline components faster than their designed life
    • Your dealer could void your drivetrain & suspension warranty
    • If you were involved in an accident you could be cited for overloading
    • Following such an accident you insurance company could terminate coverage

    Bearing all of the above in mind, I would not get too excited about 200-400# overweight.
    Where I would start to get concerned would be at 1000# or more over.
    Many years ago I was involved in a couple of court cases where drivers involved in accidents WERE prosecuted for being 1000# and 1500# over. They were charged with negligence.
    Just be careful!
  • There's no sticker on your truck that says it can't exceed the speed limit. There is however a payload sticker to limit your GVWR. just sayin. Yes, many do it. Whether it's no worse is your call, cause it's your truck, your trailer, your $ if it cost you in the end. So IMHO it's all the same legally, but if your close, driver skill may play a bigger factor.
  • Lots opinions on this... What are the specs on your rig?

    There usually isn't a lot of room between axles and GVWR on 1/2 tons...

    My 0.02, I'd be more nervous about exceeding GVWR on a 1/2 ton than a 3/4 or 1 ton SRW truck.

    Brakes are sized off of GVWR, so that's a concern. The axle brakes on the 1/2 ton are at their design limit and placard limit if fully loaded.

    The suspension will be fine, if you are under axle ratings.