Moped/Motorcycle

MrWizard wrote:
its not for 'no road' rock climbing

the tires are a lot fatter than you think
that is not a short '50cc' twist-n-go
the Big Ruckus will carry two up no problem
and handle country dirt roads and feilds

not for 'crossing streams' and climbing 'gullies'

perfect for doing a little exploring on a dirt or gravel track where you would not take the MH

Exactly what we had in mind for use of a scooter-cycle we would want to carry off the front of our Class C.

I'd want a front carrier supported by double support arms, though, one each coming off the front of each of Ford's frame members via welds or several big bolts. That Big Ruckus is a heavy one.

I'd also change out those smooth tires for some moderately aggressive trail tires.

How low is the Big Ruckus's lowest gearing, though? I'd want to be able to creep along at 1-5 MPH indefinitely in hot weather, with two people, up moderate grades, if necessary.

its not for 'no road' rock climbing

the tires are a lot fatter than you think
that is not a short '50cc' twist-n-go
the Big Ruckus will carry two up no problem
and handle country dirt roads and feilds

not for 'crossing streams' and climbing 'gullies'

perfect for doing a little exploring on a dirt or gravel track where you would not take the MH

WoodGlue wrote:


Oooh, also very cool looking!!!

WoodGlue

I don't understand how this is anymore off road capable than any other low slung scooter with tiny non aggressive tires. :h

OP: I don't think you will find a scooter that will carry 2 up at 60 mph and then also be suitable for off road. Like mentioned before, you need at least a 250 cc dual sport. Personally I would choose a DR 650

Mopeds are usually limited to one rider. A 2-person scooter would be more suitable for your needs. I'd suggest a Honda Helix. They're out of production now, but were an excellent machine. A 250cc 4-stroke engine gives reasonable performance 2-up and it has a "trunk in the aft body with enough room for two or three supermarket bags.

I'm not sure why Honda discontinued it - I though it was a very reasonable machine.

Stick with a Moto Guzzi or a Ducati. The upside is that after a couple of years of ownership, you'll be a Certified Mechanic. :)

admiral0647 wrote:

wayfun wrote:
I would go with a Suzuki Bergman or Honda Silverwing. Both are good for 2 up riding at highway speeds.

Dennis

Great choices for transportation, but way too heavy for your Class II hitch.
These scooters weigh over 600 lbs. Your hitch has a capacity of 350 lbs. You still need to consider the weight of the carrier rack.

You might consider a lightweigt 175cc or 250cc. You might need to sacrifice comfort and or speed.

Good luck in your quest...

I agree. Great for traveling or run around, take shopping etc but too heavy to hang on the back. I remade a trailer I bought cheap to haul my Bergman 650 behind my 5th wheel which works fine.

WoodGlue wrote:
I love my Vespa P200e (a rarity) but Vespa makes other nice, sporty scooters:

Vespa Scooter Information

Sporty like this:



WoodGlue

Looks like the toy my grandson rides around the yard.

That Rokon is a spectacular design!

I'd heard of those years ago and was fascinated by the engineering it took to offer a scooter-cycle with two-wheel drive.

I'm not sure the DW would fit on the back seat very well. We probably don't need quite that amount of over-the-top off-roadness. I would like one just for fun, though.

PastorCharlie wrote:

pnichols wrote:

Valkyriebush wrote:
Do yourself a favor and find you a Honda Big Ruckus, at least take a look at one. Climbs like a goat in the back woods, ...

I'm curious as to what you mean by it being good in the backwoods?

The DW and myself are rockhounds and that often finds us out in the middle of nowhere. We want a scooter-cycle carried off the front of our 24 foot motorhome that will both comfortably hold the two of us, plus crawl along real slow through the desert and up/down trails.

Do you think that the BR can handle these kind of situations? For example: Does it have a special low range in it's tranny for this? Is it's suspension nice and squishy so it rolls over rocks and bumps real smooth?

Here is the one you need for your experience. Rokon

Dirt and gravel roads, no problem. Wooded trails, moderate hills, no problem. With CVT tranny torque is good. It will go so slow I walk /ride my little pug dog with it, it's an automatic. She jumps on and off at will. It will go where plastic scooters won't. NOT a serious off roader by any means but adequate for most places where you can walk or hike. It meets a lot of needs for a single bike.

I have a Honda Rebel as pictured above. It will run up to 70 miles an hour. I does have a 5 speed transmission, so you will have to shift it. Most scooters you will not have to shift.