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Coacher12
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Jun 22, 2013

New guy needs help

I am in the process of buying a Catalina santara 27 DBS at camping world. I have a 2007 Yukon with a 5.3l w/tow package and a 2008 tundra with a 4.7l v8. The dealer told me both vehicles would pull this trailer, but when I pulled up the specs online, the trailer list at 6020 lbs dry weight, and 744 lbs hitch weight. This seems like a stretch for my vehicles and especially the Yukon which Could be rated as low as 6200. The tundra rates out at 7,000 lbs.
We are supposed to go through financing tomorrow, but safety is #1 priority especially with my 2 kids that will be with us and that's not always a priority for the salesman. The dealer is providing the sway bars and break control. We want to have a blast camping this year so any help is appreciated!
  • Max tow capacity is a theroetical number. Lets say that your 7000 lbs figure is correct. In theory, Toyota says a 2 wheel drive Tundra with 150 lb driver and a full tank of gas, can tow a flat bed trailer weighing 7000 lbs and it has 1300 lbs of payload.

    Anything added by Toyota, the dealer, or the customer, takes away from payload and towing capacity.

    Example:

    Toyota adds 4X4 (200 lbs), now the tow capacity is 6800 and payload is 1100 lbs

    Dealer adds a bed mat, floor mats, nerf bars, and sattelite radio (175 lbs), now tow capacity is 6675 and payload is 975

    Customer adds WD hitch (100 lbs) and passengers (400 lbs) , now tow capacity is 6175 and payload is 475 lbs

    Tongue weight on a 6000 lb trailer will be about 720 lbs.

    The 6000 lb trailer is still within max tow capacity, but, the payload is overloaded by 245 lbs, and any type of cargo will overload further.


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  • You need a smaller trailer or a bigger truck. That trailer will wear out either of your trucks in no time.
  • Welcome to the forum !

    First decide if you believe in the OEM specifications/limits/ratings or not

    If not, then do whatever but note that if there is warranty left...the
    OEM may be denied. If no warranty, then you have taken the OEM off the
    liability hook

    If yes, then read up and ask lots of questions

    There is a huge difference in how a question is asked or answered
    'Can do' is way different from 'should do' or 'rated for'



    The specifications, limits and ratings is a 'system' and most take
    a single rating as an absolute or out of context....like your reference
    to your TV's MTWR (Max Tow Weight Rating)

    Meaning that, those MTWR's are only a true rating within the fine
    print of the OEM's specifications

    Meaning that they derived those MTWR's from a 'curb' weight TV, which
    is the 'stripper' model with no options other than the tow option
    and one 150lb driver. Some full fluids, others partially filled

    Best is to weigh your TV's fully loaded...axle by axle. That is the
    only way to figure out your 'true' MTWR

    You should gather these ratings for both your TV's

    GVWR
    FGAWR
    RGAWR
    GCWR

    Then do the simple math to figure out your true MTWR

    Some come here looking for confirmation of what they want to hear
    or what they have already decided on....they WILL get many advisers
    that will do exactly that...just ask yourself if those advisers will
    provide the funds for warranty or whatever cost an overloaded TV
    might suffer

    This image shows how the ratings system looks like in graphical form

    howmuchcanitow
  • Overloaded? Probably. Doable? Maybe, but you won't like it.
    Too much trailer for either vehicle. The Tundra is probably the best bet but it'll be underpowered with the 4.7 . I seem to recall dad's 4.7 Tundra had a limit of 5,000# but he didn't tow with it.
  • Go back and tell them you want a maximum of a 25 foot trailer with a maximum of 6000 GVWR. Anything more and either vehicle will be straining.
  • you've made one of the #1 newbie mistakes, believing what the dealer says!:E

    never believe a work that comes out of their mouths. always check with places like this before you close the deal.

    did you look at the trailer's actual yellow sticker weight, cause you're quoting the bogue brochure "dry" weight.
    it probably weighs 6400-6500lbs. on the yellow sticker.
    which means that loaded for camping, it'll be over both vehicles' max tow capacity and that's rated with only a 150lb. driver in them.
    the trailer's GVWR is over both vehicle's max and it doesn't have much of a CCC for a trailer that size. which means you'll easily get to the trailer's GVWR when loaded.
    and that's not even talking about actual hitch weight and a 1/2 vehicle pulling a 30'+ TT.:(

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