swaying

Agee with Ron and wonder if this is a troll...Almost made up config
with mention of a half ton, but with Load Range C...so must be after
market tires. As the two lower class half tons come with 'P' and the
fake half ton comes with 'LT' load range 'E' (in most cases, but 'LT' class)

He is a pilot, so should know about CG and weight management vs RATINGs, etc.

As airplanes fall out of the sky if over loaded...if they can even
get airborne. Assume licensed by the FAA, so testing on these issues
and must pass those written tests

Even had his F150's OEM anti-sway system kicking to initiate ABS
to manage sway. On top of having a WD hitch system (right ?) and
friction bars

Spent lots of money on this F150 and wonder why not just get the
right class TV...like a +9K GVWR or +10K GVWR dually

Regardless, a good exercise for those who might come across this thread
who might think it's is okay or try to learn something from it

If not a troll, but someone really experiencing these and not had
an accident yet...well...buy a Lotto ticket before your luck runs out... :B

Towing setup is a whole system with many, many, many adjustment points
or things you can/should do (dials & knobs)....but....without understanding
what the final setup should be...just touching and adjusting the dials
and knobs...or...tossing in different types of WD systems with no
vision on what that adjustment is doing...nor what the goal of those
adjustments are for

Hope this OP does come back with some actual weights, as Ron says
we are just "speculating" and blindly without those actual weights
Also just "speculating" with those actual weights, but not as blindly...

x96mnn wrote:
I feel the same, the combination of the length and that much weight should be looking at a 3/4 ton as the solution. My bet your setup, at the scale will have you 400 plus pounds over your payload and over a 1000pds on your combined. Trailer stocked and ready to camp.

Five pages of rampant speculation and still no idea of what the TW% and other critical weights are.

A week ago, the OP said his next stop was "to the scales".
Perhaps we'll soon have some actual basis for speculating.

Ron

goducks10 wrote:
35' and 7500lbs+ is tooo much for an F150. The RK accentuates the problem since most heavy stuff is stored there. Getting a TW near 12-15% will be difficult.
A Hensley is not a solution if the TT is already swaying. It should be added to prevent possible swaying. If the TT is swaying it's not loaded right. If you're running C rated ST tires then you're at their max or possibly over. Are they 205 or 225? IMO you need to upgrade the TT to D rated tires and run 65PSI in them. Get the TW checked and make sure you have the front of the truck at the proper height. Read your owners manual for setting the truck up for towing.

Also if your Ford TSC is kicking in you have serious issues and should really think twice before towing again. I had a 2010 that had the TSC and never had it kick in while just driving down the road. Only time it kicked in was when I wanted to see how it worked and found a deserted road and purposely whipped the steering wheel left and right to try and activate it. When it finally did activate the TT was wagging pretty good. Not out of control by any means but none the less if yours is activating then you have major issues. I can't believe you haven't wrecked yet if the TSC is kicking in. I guess it's working.

I feel the same, the combination of the length and that much weight should be looking at a 3/4 ton as the solution. My bet your setup, at the scale will have you 400 plus pounds over your payload and over a 1000pds on your combined. Trailer stocked and ready to camp.

ReneeG wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

globel4u2003 wrote:
having "severe" swaying with my 2014 salem hemisphere lite 282rk, pull with 2010 crew cab lariat with tow package v8. using reese dw. any ideas and or products that might "cure" this issue. wife is tried of white knuckles!! thanks, dan

Go to a 5th wheel and never look back.

Well, hell, he might as well get a Hensley. Would be less expensive!

Maybe so but I know first hand what can happen with too much tail for the dog even with all the proper gear.

Rollover!

Cummins12V98 wrote:

globel4u2003 wrote:
having "severe" swaying with my 2014 salem hemisphere lite 282rk, pull with 2010 crew cab lariat with tow package v8. using reese dw. any ideas and or products that might "cure" this issue. wife is tried of white knuckles!! thanks, dan

Go to a 5th wheel and never look back.

Well, hell, he might as well get a Hensley. Would be less expensive!

35' and 7500lbs+ is tooo much for an F150. The RK accentuates the problem since most heavy stuff is stored there. Getting a TW near 12-15% will be difficult.
A Hensley is not a solution if the TT is already swaying. It should be added to prevent possible swaying. If the TT is swaying it's not loaded right. If you're running C rated ST tires then you're at their max or possibly over. Are they 205 or 225? IMO you need to upgrade the TT to D rated tires and run 65PSI in them. Get the TW checked and make sure you have the front of the truck at the proper height. Read your owners manual for setting the truck up for towing.

Also if your Ford TSC is kicking in you have serious issues and should really think twice before towing again. I had a 2010 that had the TSC and never had it kick in while just driving down the road. Only time it kicked in was when I wanted to see how it worked and found a deserted road and purposely whipped the steering wheel left and right to try and activate it. When it finally did activate the TT was wagging pretty good. Not out of control by any means but none the less if yours is activating then you have major issues. I can't believe you haven't wrecked yet if the TSC is kicking in. I guess it's working.

globel4u2003 wrote:
having "severe" swaying with my 2014 salem hemisphere lite 282rk, pull with 2010 crew cab lariat with tow package v8. using reese dw. any ideas and or products that might "cure" this issue. wife is tried of white knuckles!! thanks, dan

Go to a 5th wheel and never look back.

globel4u2003 wrote:
my next stop is to the scales. our truck should pull 9200+ lbs and some 1,000 + tongue wght. my wife loves this tt, but doesn't LOVE the sway!! I'm willing to spend the $ , but I more importantly want her to feel safe!! our 1993 jayco NEVER gave us this much trouble. hook up & go! just feeling so?? , new 2014 tt and having these kind of issues! thanks to all with advise, just wishing for some kind of , My final answer, to get this off dead center!! thanks !!!

If the trailer is swaying, it's not that you "feel" unsafe...

You ***ARE*** unsafe!!!

This is one of those few cases where it's not mostly a comfort issue. Unchecked sway will amplify with each oscillation, and sooner or later the trailer will yank your truck, you, and your wife off the road and into the ditch. Probably upside down and backwards.

Driving with a trailer with sway is like flying a tail-heavy airplane. In fact the same thing is trying to happen in both cases; the back end is trying to become the front end. As a pilot, you know how dangerous a tail-heavy airplane is. You wouldn't knowingly get into a tail-heavy airplane and fly it across the country.

globel4u2003 wrote:
myredracer thanks for the info. when we did go on our last trip 350+ miles, I evenly distributed weight inside trailer and trailer was level when I hooked up. had reese wdh and ez sway bar. psi in tires were at there max. 50 psi cold. and they are range c. thanks!

Great! What about your truck tires? If I don't run ours at the 80 psi max. when towing, it can feel a bit squirrely.

Have you considered the front end of your truck? Are the ball joints, tie rod ends, wheel bearings and steering box all okay? Easy to check for play with someone rocking the steering wheel while you look underneath. Sometimes the front ends on trucks don't last that well. I rebuilt the entire front end on ours last year when the truck was only 4 years old.

Could you upgrade your Reese to the dual cam by replacing the spring bars and installing the cam arms. That reminds me, what is your spring bar rating compared to the actual tongue weight? Being under-rated can cause problems because not enough weight will be restored back onto the steer axle. BTDT last year and had to go from 800 to 1200 lb trunnion bars.

Perhaps it's the cumulative effect of a number of things?

myredracer thanks for the info. when we did go on our last trip 350+ miles, I evenly distributed weight inside trailer and trailer was level when I hooked up. had reese wdh and ez sway bar. psi in tires were at there max. 50 psi cold. and they are range c. thanks!