You asked about second place and someone said a Road Trip, I've seen that before. You can buy something cheap while you search high and low for a bargain Weber. I found our small 100 on clearance at Target for about $80. I read that someone else found one on clearance at a grocery store that sells home goods for $50. I still look all the time just in case because some friends wanted one for their cabin, but have not seen one discounted since. I wish I didn't have to remove the lid to fit it under our dinette, so it often rides in the shower. We use a 10 lb propane tank that is fiberglass so it is light weight and you can see the gas level. Have not finished our first tank in 3 years or so using the Weber. I spray the whole thing, lid, grill, and body with Awesome oven cleaner from Big Lots ($1.00) and scrub it a bit. It gets pretty clean with minimum effort. If you hate the Weber, you can always resell on Craigslist for close to retail, it is a seller's market for good reason.