What does 10 TRILLION gallons of water even equate to?
That's one weather prediction for southern California in the next week. Gary Haupt
Forum Discussion
That's a lot of water for California, and not so much around the great lakes. As has been pointed out earlier, it's a proverbial drop in the bucket around here.
Regarding climate science....
1) Funny how the tolerant and inclusive ones start right out with insults and name calling by saying I am a "science denier". Then proceed to saying I am the one throwing the barbs. Since when does having a differing view on a science topic suddenly equate to a denial of science. In science, that's called a debate. YES, there is still a debate on the science!
2) NOAA is cooking the books on the numbers. I don't believe for a moment that 2016 was one of the hottest years ever. It is according to their numbers, yet if you take away all the "smoothing" of temperatures, it goes back to being a very average year. They also like to "smooth" out the warmer periods in the last century which makes the current "smooth" years seem all the more warm. Huh....
3) The sea level has gone up 18 cm in the last century. If you apply the very precise climate models that are predicting gloom and doom, it should have gone up by 100cm or more. Huh.....
4) Population is high, perhaps too high. Obviously the fault of those darn Americans using so much energy that we feed so many people. Back in the good old days before we were such energy hogs, population stayed low by starvation. Better park the tractor Martha, look what horrible things we are doing.
5) Why does the IPCC need to "hide the decline"??? Huh.....
6) Even if I were to believe all the gloom and doom theories, NONE of the proposals coming out of Paris or wherever actually accomplish anything aside from taking money from me and giving it to someone else. In order to change the human caused CO2 rise, there is only one way to do it. Most of the world population needs to disappear along with billions of animals grown to feed those billions of missing people. Then those that are left need to sit around and do nothing that emits CO2. (What about breathing? No, sorry can't do that, too much CO2 being emitted.)
7) Imagine all the hand wringing there would have been during the end of the last ice age when all those glaciers were melting and sea levels were rising by 400 feet. The world undoubtedly is coming to an end! Oh wait, it didn't.
8) I have to doubt big oil or Detroit had anything to do with less public transportation. I personally hate public transportation and avoid it in every way possible. Thus, better alternatives have sprung up and are used. Market forces.
9) I walked to school back in the day, whatever happened to that?
10) Speaking of back in the day, when I was a kid we were heading for a new ice age. Guess that theory was wrong, but this new theory is definitely right. I admire science, but it is wrong far more than it's right. I feel like we as humans understand our world about as well as a 2 year old on an aircraft carrier understands how everything on the ship works. Might get there someday, but for the time being we are just drifting along.
11) Climate is not stable, has been changing since there was enough atmosphere to have a climate. It will continue to change. The key is to adapt to it. At our current level of technology, adapting is the only thing we can do. We CAN"T change the climate in any controllable and appreciable way for a large variety of reasons. Some day, perhaps we can control the weather (and climate), but not today nor tomorrow nor the next day.
12) Something else WILL come along to replace our CO2 generating ways. Probably sooner rather than later. I'm all for working to find those better ways. When it comes, it won't be because of a green agenda, it will be because the new technology works better and is cheaper to use. I do think electric cars are the (near) future and I do think the energy to run them will also be cheaply, reliably, and cleanly be generated. It will come when the market says it's better for the user.
Follow the money, it always tells the tale. Some people want to take a LOT of money in the name of climate change. I say it's a scam.
Regarding climate science....
1) Funny how the tolerant and inclusive ones start right out with insults and name calling by saying I am a "science denier". Then proceed to saying I am the one throwing the barbs. Since when does having a differing view on a science topic suddenly equate to a denial of science. In science, that's called a debate. YES, there is still a debate on the science!
2) NOAA is cooking the books on the numbers. I don't believe for a moment that 2016 was one of the hottest years ever. It is according to their numbers, yet if you take away all the "smoothing" of temperatures, it goes back to being a very average year. They also like to "smooth" out the warmer periods in the last century which makes the current "smooth" years seem all the more warm. Huh....
3) The sea level has gone up 18 cm in the last century. If you apply the very precise climate models that are predicting gloom and doom, it should have gone up by 100cm or more. Huh.....
4) Population is high, perhaps too high. Obviously the fault of those darn Americans using so much energy that we feed so many people. Back in the good old days before we were such energy hogs, population stayed low by starvation. Better park the tractor Martha, look what horrible things we are doing.
5) Why does the IPCC need to "hide the decline"??? Huh.....
6) Even if I were to believe all the gloom and doom theories, NONE of the proposals coming out of Paris or wherever actually accomplish anything aside from taking money from me and giving it to someone else. In order to change the human caused CO2 rise, there is only one way to do it. Most of the world population needs to disappear along with billions of animals grown to feed those billions of missing people. Then those that are left need to sit around and do nothing that emits CO2. (What about breathing? No, sorry can't do that, too much CO2 being emitted.)
7) Imagine all the hand wringing there would have been during the end of the last ice age when all those glaciers were melting and sea levels were rising by 400 feet. The world undoubtedly is coming to an end! Oh wait, it didn't.
8) I have to doubt big oil or Detroit had anything to do with less public transportation. I personally hate public transportation and avoid it in every way possible. Thus, better alternatives have sprung up and are used. Market forces.
9) I walked to school back in the day, whatever happened to that?
10) Speaking of back in the day, when I was a kid we were heading for a new ice age. Guess that theory was wrong, but this new theory is definitely right. I admire science, but it is wrong far more than it's right. I feel like we as humans understand our world about as well as a 2 year old on an aircraft carrier understands how everything on the ship works. Might get there someday, but for the time being we are just drifting along.
11) Climate is not stable, has been changing since there was enough atmosphere to have a climate. It will continue to change. The key is to adapt to it. At our current level of technology, adapting is the only thing we can do. We CAN"T change the climate in any controllable and appreciable way for a large variety of reasons. Some day, perhaps we can control the weather (and climate), but not today nor tomorrow nor the next day.
12) Something else WILL come along to replace our CO2 generating ways. Probably sooner rather than later. I'm all for working to find those better ways. When it comes, it won't be because of a green agenda, it will be because the new technology works better and is cheaper to use. I do think electric cars are the (near) future and I do think the energy to run them will also be cheaply, reliably, and cleanly be generated. It will come when the market says it's better for the user.
Follow the money, it always tells the tale. Some people want to take a LOT of money in the name of climate change. I say it's a scam.
