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westend
Mar 04, 2017Explorer
Newbiecampers wrote:2oldman wrote:westend wrote:Well put.
There is a lot of well funded propaganda developed to disrespect the science of climate change and climatology, in general.
I do notice that some of the naysayers (seems to be those with the least science background, too) have resorted to name calling and weak humor to try and bolster their stance. Beyond that, some have a financial interest in concurrent polluting industries that make them want to disallow any notion of climate change or the effect of greenhouse gases.
I'm sorry to say that I have given up trying to share any information about ecology, the environment. or pollution on this Forum. There are just too many that rebuff any science involved.
I find that few if any deniers really understand the CO2 cycle and how it traps heat. Global climate change is not that complicated, and if you understand how it works, it's difficult to come to any other conclusion than industrialized man is causing it. If you deny it, chances are you really don't understand it. It baffles me how people deny something they don't understand.
Science has always been rebuffed when its findings disrupt any industry. The tobacco companies come to mind. And getting lead out of gasoline was a 20-year battle. Seems obvious now, but back then as now, it was a hell of a fight.
It is futile to argue with a denier. It's like arguing about Trump. Everyone's mind is made up and there's no changing it.
But I am guessing that just like others here, despite all your understanding on the science, you still drive around gas-guzzling RV vehicles. Despite your understanding of what it does to the environment.
But alas, just as you say it is futile to argue with a denier, it is futile to argue with the typical "not in my backyard" "do as I say not as I do" type. There is always an excuse or justification on how when they do what they say others need to stop or reduce doing, it is "ok."
Wind! is the answer......oh, bbbut wait, you can't put them off the coasts where the wind is.... that would destroy -my- view. We need to drastically reduce the amount of CO2 we pump into the atmosphere.....wait, but my E450 is just fine to use. There aren't that many of us.
This all reminds me of a conversation I had with an individual who flies his own aircraft for recreation. He was extremely vocal about how the world needed to reduce, yet he gladly flies around in his airplane to sight see or get the proverbial $100 hamburger at another airport. Burns through all those gallons of -leaded- fuel per year, year after year for the last 20+, but that is just fine.
I always ask those that are on a solar and wind kick if they have a cloths dryer. Well, yes, of course I do they say. Why aren't you using the environmentally friendly solar and wind available outside (and free) to dry your cloths?? Bbbut I need my cloths dryer, because__________ (insert excuse).
I really can't find anyone telling you (or anyone else) to change any of your behavior within this thread. You're confusing process with cause and effect.
Personally, I don't have any great answers to the climate change problems. If there was a "magic bullet" that hit the target with all of us, I would sure suggest it.
I sure don't have anything against decentralizing the electrical grid and individuals using alternative energy sources like wind, solar, and hydro. If Mr. Jones down the street has an array of solar panels but Mrs. Jones uses a clothes dryer, I'm not going to lose any sleep.
I tend to believe that a majority of us are well-thinking adults and can make appropriate decisions.
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