What does 10 TRILLION gallons of water even equate to?
That's one weather prediction for southern California in the next week. Gary Haupt
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What about the "idiot", "sucker", "a five year old", "radical", and the other instances that have occurred in this thread? I guess if you aren't on the side being demeaned, they may go unnoticed.
How does money fit in all of this? It's not like climate scientists are wealthy, usually the opposite. Big Oil, on the other hand, has tremendous resources and uses it all the time to foist their agenda. To internalize these issues into an anti-USA campaign is rather sophomoric. It is a worldwide problem and that is the reason for conventions and pacts being offered and agreed/disagreed to.
To continue the whole quote of Ms Figueres"..That will not happen overnight and it will not happen at a single conference on climate change, be it COP 15, 21, 40 - you choose the number. It just does not occur like that. It is a process, because of the depth of the transformation."
I believe what she's referring to is the change from a society that cares little about pollution to sustaining an economy that also takes responsibility for climate change into the process. It is not an indictment about any particular economic model but a transformation of all economic models.
What occurs to me is that climate science is very divisive with some folks taking a strict "black or white" view of it. IME, it's involved with natural science so there is a whole lot of complexity to the overview and any predicted result. Unfortunately, lines have been drawn in the sand and objections, misinformation, and exaggeration are all at hand. That is from both sides, IMO.
To anyone wishing to investigate some of the immediate consequences of climate change, search for a few videos about what is happening in Greenland. The images of a Niagara Falls flowing into the usual permanent ice cap impressed me.
How does money fit in all of this? It's not like climate scientists are wealthy, usually the opposite. Big Oil, on the other hand, has tremendous resources and uses it all the time to foist their agenda. To internalize these issues into an anti-USA campaign is rather sophomoric. It is a worldwide problem and that is the reason for conventions and pacts being offered and agreed/disagreed to.
To continue the whole quote of Ms Figueres"..That will not happen overnight and it will not happen at a single conference on climate change, be it COP 15, 21, 40 - you choose the number. It just does not occur like that. It is a process, because of the depth of the transformation."
I believe what she's referring to is the change from a society that cares little about pollution to sustaining an economy that also takes responsibility for climate change into the process. It is not an indictment about any particular economic model but a transformation of all economic models.
What occurs to me is that climate science is very divisive with some folks taking a strict "black or white" view of it. IME, it's involved with natural science so there is a whole lot of complexity to the overview and any predicted result. Unfortunately, lines have been drawn in the sand and objections, misinformation, and exaggeration are all at hand. That is from both sides, IMO.
To anyone wishing to investigate some of the immediate consequences of climate change, search for a few videos about what is happening in Greenland. The images of a Niagara Falls flowing into the usual permanent ice cap impressed me.
