What does 10 TRILLION gallons of water even equate to?

pnichols wrote:
Control of the hothouse affect doesn't require taking every action possible or available by every individual ... it requires that all of us take high priority actions as much as possible or available.

This is definitely where we disagree.

To me, for someone to be so concerned about the catastrophic end result to the point of them talking about population control or other solutions (which affects others), and some of the other items you mentioned in your list, to then leave other certain activities in their lifestyle makes no sense.

If the situation is as dire as some make it out to be, then yes, it seems to me it must be an "every action possible" by "every individual" solution to rectify it.

Quick and dirty calculation on recreational energy usage in this country:

For the average "rv user" (whether it be campers, airplanes, boats, atvs, driving a car on vacation to see the sights, any and all of it) I'm thinking gas usage is conservatively 500 gallons per year. Number of households in the country that partake in "rv" usage I think could be very conservatively estimated at 2 million. Thats a billion gallons of fossil fuel per year. And I think I am low on my numbers. Add in the energy required to manufacture, transport, sell, maintain, service, store, etc. those vehicles, I would not think that is an insignificant number to individuals of a certain opinion.

Add in things like the energy to supply hotels/resorts, private and public pools, places like Vegas (that only exist for recreation), etc. etc. etc. and you have a large energy use picture for "recreation" in this country.