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Lynnmor wrote:
Isaac-1 wrote:
There were some interesting takes on it, but mostly it seemed to be a cultural thing, the attitude of the locals was it gives the teen age kids a place to work, many of them had worked pumping gas themselves as a first job while growing up, and many had kids that did so. So while on one hand they see it as wasteful, on the other they see it as generating a steady supply of easy fairly safe first jobs for their kids.
Sure, just what I want, teenage kids banging and scraping gas nozzles on my vehicles.
BUT its ok to put a rifle in a teenagers hands and send him into combat.
Jay D.ksg5000 wrote:
Oregon gas taxes are lower than both CA and Washington
Oregon gas prices tend to be lower than neighboring self serve states despite having higher tax rates - go figure.- My first job was in a gas station, pumping gas in ice & snow in the winter and 90+ deg heat in the summer. I am perfectly happy to let someone else do that for me now. Pumping me own gas in the rain is no bonus to me.
- In order to pump your own gas in "rural" Oregon the gas pumps have to accept credit/debit card payments(many have never been updated) and the station has to be willing to participate in self service. Don't expect that all Oregon "rural" fuel facilities will allow you to pump your own gas, as most currently do not.
With respect to diesel, some stations are only "self service", while others won't allow it(station owner decision). Ralph Cramden wrote:
ksg5000 wrote:
Oregon is a big strange but some would argue that your ultimate gas price is determined by the distributors and tax authorities and not by the minimum wage earned by gas attendants --- goes against the basic econ rules we learned 40+ years ago but "free market" ain't so free when there are limited number of distributors.
Oregon laws remain in effect because everytime someone tries to overturn the the law people point out that the gas in nearby states is usually higher than Oregon.
Basic economic rules would dictate that the wages and other associated costs for maintaining employees get passed down to the consumer. I find it hard to beleive there are many gas station operators in Oregon or anywhere else that provide that service out of the goodness of their own heart, and on their own dime. There is not much of a profit margin on fuel at the retail level to begin with, which is why the vast majority of gas stations are now convenience stores.
Yep - but basic economic rules require free market and that doesn't exist in the distribution chain in Oregon and many other states. Oregon gas prices tend to be lower than neighboring self serve states despite having higher tax rates - go figure.goducks10 wrote:
Tom/Barb wrote:
I simply don't like the thought of some yokel bureaucrat tell me I'm not smart enough to operate a gas pump.
Maybe they know something.
I'm certain they believe they do.drsteve wrote:
Those whining about the "nanny state" might be interested to know that gas station owners, not bureaucrats, were the driving force behind not allowing customers to pump their own.
http://www.oregonlive.com/trending/2018/01/actually_oregons_ban_on_self-p.htmlLet us first deal with the actual change in the law, originally put in place in 1951 for a number of reasons. It created jobs, was billed as a safety measure and as a way to keep older petrol patrons from having to inconvenience themselves at the pump.
- Those whining about the "nanny state" might be interested to know that gas station owners, not bureaucrats, were the driving force behind not allowing customers to pump their own.
time2roll wrote:
Tom/Barb wrote:
Great time to switch to an electric vehicle.
OMG. I might smell like gas.
One other statement I read was " I have no idea how to run those pumps"
No fumes, no spills, fill-up at home in the warm dry garage, less time standing and waiting, no leaving the kids unattended in the car,
and as easier to plug in than a vacuum cleaner.
Just remember when in this part of Oregon to have your 40' extension ladder strapped to the roof and these instructions printed and near by for reference.
Isaac-1 wrote:
There were some interesting takes on it, but mostly it seemed to be a cultural thing, the attitude of the locals was it gives the teen age kids a place to work, many of them had worked pumping gas themselves as a first job while growing up, and many had kids that did so. So while on one hand they see it as wasteful, on the other they see it as generating a steady supply of easy fairly safe first jobs for their kids.
Sure, just what I want, teenage kids banging and scraping gas nozzles on my vehicles.
