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Index_Jeff
Jan 22, 2007Explorer
Ok, time for me to make what I hope will be a few useful suggestions here, my own self.
Re: sound abatement.
From the construction trade, I suggest what is called "SillSeal". And "Grace, Ice and Water Sheild."
From the automotive... Yer ordinary junkyard cooling fan.
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The sillseal is a sort of styrofoam product. Kind of halfway between plastic and styrofoam. It comes in a roll that is 3" wide, to 6 or 8 inches wide. By 25 to 50 feet long, or more. Fairly cheap. 3 or 4 bucks the last time I bought a roll.
This is laid down on top of the foundation, before the sill is laid down. It helps to keep the sill from absorbing water over time, from the concrete. Also seals any small gaps between the wooden sill plate, and the uneven concrete surface.
The ice and water seal is a sort of large rubber patch. You peel back the liner, and stick it down where you want it. Be careful, it will stick REAL fast. And sticks to almost anything. (Don't get it on you, or you will be wearing it until it wears off by attrition.)
The actual Grace Ice and Water Sheild comes in a very large roll and costs at least a 100 dollars. But... You can get the very same stuff cut down to about a 16 inch wide roll, for about 16 dollars. It is made for trimming/sealing around window openings.
The I&W is laid on a clean roof sheated surface. (The plywood.) Tarpaper may be laid over that, and the shingles go on top. The biggest purpose to the I&W is that it seals around every shingle mail that goes through it. Believe me, the stuff is awesome when it comes to making a roof leakproof.
Now, the purpose to these two, would be to use the sillseal as a gasket material... And the I&W can be used for either/or gaskets, and panel soundproofing.
To whit:
The sillseal is easily cut with scissors or utility knife to pretty much any shape you want. It can be used, stacked or not, as a gasket between two mechanical parts to keep them from rattling.
The I&W is actually a bit more useful.
I completely deadened all the road noise in an old nova using this stuff.
Cut it into the size you want, clean the metal panel, stick the I&W down... and viola', no more noise.
I stuck large patches if the I&W to the insides of the door panels. (Inside the body of the door. Not just on the inside of the car. LOL) On the firewall and floor, under the carpet. And on the roof, then put the headliner back over it. It almost completely eliminated any noise in that car.
It can be used as gaskets between rattling parts as well. With the advantage of actually sticking to one or the other...
Now, as for the 12v cooling fan from a junkyard...
1.) LOTS of air movement.
2.) Since it comes out of a car, it is going to be a LOT more forgiving of changing voltages, than those 12v computer/muffin type fans everyone has been talking about.
3.) If you go pull one out of a car yourself, half the time they'll just give you the fan. If not, they are usually pretty cheap, if you choose the right car. LOL
4.) It's already got a handy, dandy mounting bracket that can be adapted to almost anywhere.
I hope this helps someone, and/or gives someone some good ideas for their own project.
:)
Re: sound abatement.
From the construction trade, I suggest what is called "SillSeal". And "Grace, Ice and Water Sheild."
From the automotive... Yer ordinary junkyard cooling fan.
~~~
The sillseal is a sort of styrofoam product. Kind of halfway between plastic and styrofoam. It comes in a roll that is 3" wide, to 6 or 8 inches wide. By 25 to 50 feet long, or more. Fairly cheap. 3 or 4 bucks the last time I bought a roll.
This is laid down on top of the foundation, before the sill is laid down. It helps to keep the sill from absorbing water over time, from the concrete. Also seals any small gaps between the wooden sill plate, and the uneven concrete surface.
The ice and water seal is a sort of large rubber patch. You peel back the liner, and stick it down where you want it. Be careful, it will stick REAL fast. And sticks to almost anything. (Don't get it on you, or you will be wearing it until it wears off by attrition.)
The actual Grace Ice and Water Sheild comes in a very large roll and costs at least a 100 dollars. But... You can get the very same stuff cut down to about a 16 inch wide roll, for about 16 dollars. It is made for trimming/sealing around window openings.
The I&W is laid on a clean roof sheated surface. (The plywood.) Tarpaper may be laid over that, and the shingles go on top. The biggest purpose to the I&W is that it seals around every shingle mail that goes through it. Believe me, the stuff is awesome when it comes to making a roof leakproof.
Now, the purpose to these two, would be to use the sillseal as a gasket material... And the I&W can be used for either/or gaskets, and panel soundproofing.
To whit:
The sillseal is easily cut with scissors or utility knife to pretty much any shape you want. It can be used, stacked or not, as a gasket between two mechanical parts to keep them from rattling.
The I&W is actually a bit more useful.
I completely deadened all the road noise in an old nova using this stuff.
Cut it into the size you want, clean the metal panel, stick the I&W down... and viola', no more noise.
I stuck large patches if the I&W to the insides of the door panels. (Inside the body of the door. Not just on the inside of the car. LOL) On the firewall and floor, under the carpet. And on the roof, then put the headliner back over it. It almost completely eliminated any noise in that car.
It can be used as gaskets between rattling parts as well. With the advantage of actually sticking to one or the other...
Now, as for the 12v cooling fan from a junkyard...
1.) LOTS of air movement.
2.) Since it comes out of a car, it is going to be a LOT more forgiving of changing voltages, than those 12v computer/muffin type fans everyone has been talking about.
3.) If you go pull one out of a car yourself, half the time they'll just give you the fan. If not, they are usually pretty cheap, if you choose the right car. LOL
4.) It's already got a handy, dandy mounting bracket that can be adapted to almost anywhere.
I hope this helps someone, and/or gives someone some good ideas for their own project.
:)
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