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joelchappell
Jul 01, 2010Explorer
Well if you have been following any of my previous posts you know that I first purchased a Lifan ES3500 generator. It was very quiet. Electric start. But the gas tank had a crack. And the electrical box was coming apart. I returned it to Homedepot, but there were no more to be had.
I emailed LifanUSA to inquire about where I could order another. It's been 5 weeks and still no response.
I then ordered a CHampion 46538. Battery was loose in the box, and a couple of other little things. But it ran great. However there was a clatter in the top end that I could not get around, so I returned it.
I looked into Duropower. The 3500ES model. John had some goo success with it. I was just about to pull the trigger and order one, when I saw some negative responses from Duropower customer service. So I emailed an inquiry to Duropower and to this day I have heard nothing.
So on June 25th I ordered another Champion 46538, as the Professor and others have reported good success without the clatter. It arrived yesterday (June 30th), just 5 days after I ordered it.
While I was waiting for it to arrive, we all heard the report of the Duropower warranty (Or warranty denial policy). I consider that a near miss.
I pulled the Champion out this morning. The battery was bolted down. Everything looked neater if that makes sense. I oiled it up and put a little fuel in it, cranked it and no clatter. I don't know what was up with the 1st one, but this one is definitely different.
I didn't have time to play with it very long as I have to get to the office. But I ran it long enough to believe my generator saga can move on into the application stage.
There has been a lot of discussion about how American CPE is, and whether they own the factory or utilize the factory. I have experience with a similar situation. I had a business previously where I sold a particular product. I bought them from American companies at wholesale and resold at retail.
As I researched the backgrounds of these companies, many of them considered to be a bedrock American company, I found that 90% were coming from China.
I did further research and was able to get setup to do business with the same factories in China these companies were using. I then branded the product with my name. The advantage was that I was able to work with the factory to spec my product exactly the way I wanted it produced. After back and forth for several months I had 3 models I was very happy with, and were better than what I had been buying.
I did not own the factory. But I had total control over the production of my products, where I had none before.
All of that to say, I am not terribly concerned with CPE's factory arrangement. In 2010 it is becoming a normal business model for a company to have products produced in CHina. There is a difference between rebranding a china product, and having a custom product built. What I see in the Champion line is unique features, strong customer support, and a well built product. Just my 2 cents.
Here are pix of the new one.








I emailed LifanUSA to inquire about where I could order another. It's been 5 weeks and still no response.
I then ordered a CHampion 46538. Battery was loose in the box, and a couple of other little things. But it ran great. However there was a clatter in the top end that I could not get around, so I returned it.
I looked into Duropower. The 3500ES model. John had some goo success with it. I was just about to pull the trigger and order one, when I saw some negative responses from Duropower customer service. So I emailed an inquiry to Duropower and to this day I have heard nothing.
So on June 25th I ordered another Champion 46538, as the Professor and others have reported good success without the clatter. It arrived yesterday (June 30th), just 5 days after I ordered it.
While I was waiting for it to arrive, we all heard the report of the Duropower warranty (Or warranty denial policy). I consider that a near miss.
I pulled the Champion out this morning. The battery was bolted down. Everything looked neater if that makes sense. I oiled it up and put a little fuel in it, cranked it and no clatter. I don't know what was up with the 1st one, but this one is definitely different.
I didn't have time to play with it very long as I have to get to the office. But I ran it long enough to believe my generator saga can move on into the application stage.
There has been a lot of discussion about how American CPE is, and whether they own the factory or utilize the factory. I have experience with a similar situation. I had a business previously where I sold a particular product. I bought them from American companies at wholesale and resold at retail.
As I researched the backgrounds of these companies, many of them considered to be a bedrock American company, I found that 90% were coming from China.
I did further research and was able to get setup to do business with the same factories in China these companies were using. I then branded the product with my name. The advantage was that I was able to work with the factory to spec my product exactly the way I wanted it produced. After back and forth for several months I had 3 models I was very happy with, and were better than what I had been buying.
I did not own the factory. But I had total control over the production of my products, where I had none before.
All of that to say, I am not terribly concerned with CPE's factory arrangement. In 2010 it is becoming a normal business model for a company to have products produced in CHina. There is a difference between rebranding a china product, and having a custom product built. What I see in the Champion line is unique features, strong customer support, and a well built product. Just my 2 cents.
Here are pix of the new one.
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