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Oct 07, 2014

Battery Water Question - Interesting Observation

Here's my charging system:

Progressive Dynamics Intelli-Power PD4655V 55A Charger/Converter
4 x 6V Costco Golf Cart Batteries - 3 years old.
Onan 2800
The only inverter I have is a small 300w one for my 22" TV. I have a 1000W one on a switched receptacle but I never use it, always off.

When I hooked up the four 6V batteries I used the same size cables as the generator and power converter/charger to series parallel them. Pretty sure they are at least 4awg.

I check my water levels in the batteries twice a year. Usually only having to add water once a year and not really that much. What I have noticed the last few times is that two of my batteries need more water than the other two.

What I can tell you about my installation that is less than perfect/ideal but was done due to factory cable lengths is that the converter/charger is hooked up to the left pair of batteries and that the generator is hooked to the right pair of batteries. Both "pairs", so to speak are in Parallel whereas both left and right "pairs", so to speak, are in series. So when the PD is charging its getting one pair, in my mind, and then equalizing. When the generator is charging its getting one pair and then equalizing. The generator pair always needs more water, which tells me the generator is obviously (and predictably) doing a worse job of charging and occasionally boiling the batteries. The PD obviously does not. The interesting part is that with the batteries in a series-parallel configuration and all the wire sizes the same I would have figured the system would be better balanced.

Am I looking at this right?

Is it time well spent to hook the generator and charger to the same point across all four batteries rather than two pairs that balance? I've never had any problems and the water usage is the only thing out of the ordinary that I have noticed.

Thanks for your time and knowledge.
Keith
  • smkettner wrote:
    If you want them balanced... connect the close pairs in parallel, then put the two sets in series.
    Then all power will need to go through the whole loop vs focus on the closest pair.


    This is how they are now, both 6V pairs are in series. Then the two pairs are in Parallel. All four batteries are hooked together. The only thing less than optimal is that I am not going across all four batteries with either the generator or converter/charger. I'd need to extend wires to do it. Obviously the system voltage is 12V and all batteries are balancing.

    I dont have any high amperage DC loads so I am not sure re-wiring is a benefit? Looking for feedback on why the two are requiring more water and if there really is a benefit to taking the time to rewire it in my scenario and usage.

    I have so many batteries because I do A LOT of winter camping. Like 30-40 days camping in snow parks in Oregon. The furnace runs when it needs to. I leave it set at 65 the whole time, whether I am in it or not. I can easily go 4-5 days without needing any charge. The furnace fan is not a high amperage load, so the batteries should be able to self balance. They're just not balancing well on generator charge.
  • If you want them balanced... connect the close pairs in parallel, then put the two sets in series.
    Then all power will need to go through the whole loop vs focus on the closest pair.

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