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Tplat
Explorer
Mar 19, 2021

Electrical Issues

Hi all my first post here because of issues. My brother has a Wilderness 5th wheel and it started having issues with power. Sometimes it will run fine but with out warning it will lose power. It will run fine off of a an external generator but will pop the fuse on a 20 amp plug in. Used to run fine off of the 20a plug in but it started doing this all of a sudden. It does not have a built in generator. Any kind of help woud be greatly appreciated.
  • wa8yxm's avatar
    wa8yxm
    Explorer III
    Many RV's pop GFCI's Prime suspects are water heater. Fridge and converter.

    TURN OFF all breakrs and plug a drop lamp into the outlet along with the RV via adapters. Put the light where you can see it from the breaker panel in the RV.
    now starting with the main breaker turn on one at a time wait a few seconds then the next and the next till the drop lamp goes dark (Tripped GFCI. turn that one back off. reset GFCI and continue till all breakers that do not trip GFCI are on.

    Now figure out what's on that breaker.
  • Old-Biscuit wrote:
    IF it is only having Electrical issues when on a 20A outlet....suspect that 20A is GFCI protected and one of the heater elements

    Turn Off ALL Individual Circuit Breakers in the RV AC Power Panel
    Then plug in/reset that 20A Circuit Breaker
    If it Trips....turn off Both 50A CBs in RV AC Panel and try again
    If it trips...problem is Adapter(s), RV power Cord,

    If it Doesn't trip with RV 50A CBs closed...close each Individual CBs One at a time until the 20A CB trips....then ID that circuit and check it for loose wiring/bad connections etc



    1st post PG 1
    Follow it and find the circuit that is causing those GFCIs to trip

    Only takes 5ma of current leakage from Hot to Ground to trip GFCI
  • wnjj's avatar
    wnjj
    Explorer II
    Old-Biscuit wrote:
    Old-Biscuit wrote:
    IF it is only having Electrical issues when on a 20A outlet....suspect that 20A is GFCI protected and one of the heater elements

    Turn Off ALL Individual Circuit Breakers in the RV AC Power Panel
    Then plug in/reset that 20A Circuit Breaker
    If it Trips....turn off Both 50A CBs in RV AC Panel and try again
    If it trips...problem is Adapter(s), RV power Cord,

    If it Doesn't trip with RV 50A CBs closed...close each Individual CBs One at a time until the 20A CB trips....then ID that circuit and check it for loose wiring/bad connections etc



    1st post PG 1
    Follow it and find the circuit that is causing those GFCIs to trip

    Only takes 5ma of current leakage from Hot to Ground to trip GFCI

    It also only takes 5mA of current leakage from neutral to ground. Turning circuit breakers off will not remove that fault from the circuit so your method may not locate the issue. Unplugging the fridge or converter or disconnecting the water heater element will if they are causing the problem.
  • time2roll wrote:
    Tplat wrote:
    OK found a water leak along the wires for what I`m assuming is the hot water tank, we never used it and also never turned the breaker on for it. Will try the the breakers for the trailer tomorrow , not supposed to rain. Would cutting and capping off the wires or pulling the breaker work? We have access to a bathroom and such so hot water isn`t an issue.
    You should be able to remove hot, neutral, ground in the electric panel and put a wire nut on each until you sort this out.


    That`s what I was thinking for now in case it rains again. Determined it`s omly has a problem when raining. Right now it`s running off of the 20amp plug in in the well house just fine. Shitty weekend here for fixing things. First my car broke down and then this along with rain off and on for the last 4 days or so and now just learned that the reason car broke down is the head gasket blew.
  • If it only happens when it is raining, it is probably getting water into the outside outlet which either shorts GROUND to NEUTRAL or GROUND to HOT.
  • Water in the outside outlet or into one of the extension cord / adapter connections.
    Put something over the connections to protect them.

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