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pianotuna
Nomad III
May 23, 2013

energy saving cooking

Hi,

I hate burning propane--so I tried this today.

I put two eggs (in the shell) inside the four cup drip coffee pot.

I filled it with water, then poured the water into the reservoir.

Then I made coffee and waited 25 minutes.

End result was two nicely hard cooked eggs.

The coffee pot initially uses about 530 watts for seven minutes. Then it cycles once every three minutes for 13 seconds.

I know that 15 minutes was not enough time. I suspect I'll try 20 minutes next time to try to get a nicely soft boiled egg.
  • My kitchen is OUTSIDE. Nothing like bacon & eggs & sweat. Propane also makes higher humidity just what I don't need.

    The GRIDDLE I was trying to infer to is you know like a rectangular frying pan only electric, with a lid. Something cute and energy efficient. The nearest propane plant is a 242 mile round trip.

    Also despite my very best efforts, I have not found an electric egg poacher that does not start to stick, teflon or no, after a few months. Correct operation, silicone tools, 30 different types of oil (exaggeration) it does not seem to matter. The @#$%^&! eggs start sticking to the cups. Any help would be appreciated. Toasters work good here. I just run outside and flop a couple slices of Pan Bimbo on a rock.
  • Aren't microwaves extremely efficient at transferring heat just to the food? The waves are at the natural frequency of water so the transfer is very good.

    Jim
  • I thought the idea is that for Piano it is a PITN to get propane but often he has 15a power to recharge. It is not about saving energy or the planet... just avoiding propane. Latent heat dissapating is also a non issue unless the air conditioner is running.

    Electric burner seems like a good fit to me.
  • Almot's avatar
    Almot
    Explorer III
    SMK, the problem with hot plate is that too much heat is bypassing the job, as Mex put it. The heat dissipates from the plate, and from the walls of the pot. Propane is worse yet, a lot of heat goes straight into your living space, and it burns oxygen in the room. Electric boilers, kettles, coffee makers etc are better insulated, there is less loss of heat.

    It's not just about saving the planet - we are already doomed. But if you are, like Mex for example, have to cook in a space where it's hot all day long, then the very thought of propane stove or hotplate is unbearable. Permanent campers in Mexico have an outside kitchen of some kind on the shady side of the rig or under palapa. Like a 2-burner stove on flimsy old table.
  • Almot wrote:
    MEXICOWANDERER wrote:

    I have to be careful with non purified water down here. Domestic water is so hard I swear I could pour it out and it would stand in a lump.

    You need a good submicron or RO filter cartridge. They are not that expensive.

    Scmoozing your thread Don, is there a really good brand of ELECTRIC GRIDDLE with a lid that is appropriate for use in an RV?

    Any electric kettle is good, as long as it is small enough. Unfortunately they are all big, 1 liter or more. None of them is really good in RV, IMO, because they all need +1,000W inverter. 12V kettles are so slow that are nearly useless.


    This is our "water pressure" down here. Also our reservoir. It would make an RO manufacturer, gag.

  • pianotuna wrote:
    Hi,

    I hate burning propane--so I tried this today.

    I put two eggs (in the shell) inside the four cup drip coffee pot.

    I filled it with water, then poured the water into the reservoir.

    Then I made coffee and waiting 25 minutes.

    End result was two nicely hard cooked eggs.

    The coffee pot initially uses about 530 watts for seven minutes. Then it cycles once every three minutes for 13 seconds.

    I know that 15 minutes was not enough time. I suspect I'll try 20 minutes next time to try to get a nicely soft boiled egg.


    Very clever! I am guessing it didnt make the coffee taste odd?

    We bought one of these gadget charging campstoves on an impulse when we were wandering around the mall a few months ago. No propane needed. Kind of a gimmick but my grandkids think its the coolest thing in the world.
  • Where is the electric hot plate? I have an old one from the '50s if you want it.
  • Almot's avatar
    Almot
    Explorer III
    MEXICOWANDERER wrote:

    I have to be careful with non purified water down here. Domestic water is so hard I swear I could pour it out and it would stand in a lump.

    You need a good submicron or RO filter cartridge. They are not that expensive.

    Scmoozing your thread Don, is there a really good brand of ELECTRIC GRIDDLE with a lid that is appropriate for use in an RV?

    Any electric kettle is good, as long as it is small enough. Unfortunately they are all big, 1 liter or more. None of them is really good in RV, IMO, because they all need +1,000W inverter. 12V kettles are so slow that are nearly useless.
  • I LOVE these home-brew experiments. The "problem" with gas cooking is that sometimes it's warm inside the rig and cooking with gas only makes it worse. A lot of heat bypasses the job at hand. Boiling eggs seems to be one of the worst energy offenders.

    I love soft boiled eggs. Three-minute variety. But too frequently, things go wrong. Is there a better way to handle a hot egg while preparing it to rest on my wonderful buttered toast?

    I have to be careful with non purified water down here. Domestic water is so hard I swear I could pour it out and it would stand in a lump. It would coat my coffeemaker's tubes to look like Carlsbad Caverns in no time.

    Scmoozing your thread Don, is there a really good brand of ELECTRIC GRIDDLE with a lid that is appropriate for use in an RV?
  • Almot's avatar
    Almot
    Explorer III
    I'm a little lost in your math, you probably calculated total minutes during this cycling. Normally, 10 minutes of continuous boiling is enough, from my experience.

    Yes, propane is bad. Running your car engine is bad too. Nobody cares until it;s too late (which it probably is, already). CO2 emissions from China increased 30 times in the last 10 years, making it #1 polluter in the world. In the US, the only time when emissions temporarily dropped, was during the recent recession, and not because people got smarter but because economy slowed down and people stopped driving and buying like crazy, for a short while.

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