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myredracer
Explorer II
Sep 15, 2015

From one extreme to the other - electrically speaking

Am writing this adventure story (with a possible hint of rant) as we have no 120 volts at our CG and can't watch TV (missing Dr Phil season premiere & AGT finals too, argh). First time EVER dry camping. Our PC will run on battery for a while so I have something to keep me suitably occupied.

We're out on our longest camping trip so far, 2000 or so miles from BC to Reno and back. I know one common and troublesome issue facing RVers is CG (or "RV park") voltage so I've installed a PI EMS and also an LED display in plain sight in our kitchen to be able to keep tabs on what's going on everywhere we go and have had no problems to date anywhere. DW thinks I'm an idiot but whatever... :R

Got to the casino CG in Reno and were pleased to find good voltage there - rock solid 123 - 124 volts. Highest and most stable I've seen anywhere yet. A little on the high side but better than being too low. Great water pressure too at 100 psi, great weather at a sunny 100+ F and even good luck at the slots. Interesting CG, especially with a Burning Man event on at the casino, lol. Great visit.

Headed out to the Cali. coast only to find cold and rainy weather. I don't believe in omens, but not a good sign. Pre-booked into a Thousand Trails up in Florence, Or. It's a heavily treed CG with narrow roads, grouchy staff and no direction signage. Get lost several times driving around. Not getting a good feeling. TT has a reputation for bad voltage, but never thought it could be as bad as we've just encountered. Arrived and plugged in to find that the voltage was hovering around 106V!!! Bad, bad, bad considering nuthin' on but some LED lights and converter charging the battery a little.

Head off to get some groceries and when we get back, the EMS is turning off and resetting over and over. What? Quickly figure out that while 120 volts is off, 12V battery gets used and when the EMS turns back on, the converter is drawing more AC current as it charges the battery which then causes the CG AC voltage to drop which again causes the EMS to trip once more. Bad, bad, bad wiring system at this TT CG. :M

Error code initially says open ground. Very bad, bad, bad. Call CG maintenance dude who checks it out and declares the ground is fine but that we are at the end of the line and have the worst voltage here so nothing can be done. Nice to know after we've fully set up and it's just turned dark. Dude leaves but I cannot get rid of open ground situation, even after trying our spare 30A cord. Then plug into the other 30A recept. on pedestal and get rid of open ground. EMS resets, but then goes back into the repeating on-off cycle.

No choice but to shut off the AC at the pedestal and find out what all the dry camping hype is about... The maintenance due had said that there is a row of 50 amp sites behind us all with good voltage so we will break camp and relocate in the morning (which is expected to be rainy). Or maybe we should go back to Reno.

Will probably end up getting an autoformer after this adventure. Too bad if everyone else's voltage goes down in the CG. Oh well, haha. :B

18 Replies

  • Hi Gil, sorry to hear about your problems. Many of the older campgrounds have wiring that cant supply the needs of current RV's. After one 99 volt episode I bought an autoformer. I also carry two Honda 2000 watt generators. If the power goes off or I am dry camping the generator(s)can be fired up. If you don't have an autoformer, but have a generator, fire it up if the voltage is too low. Rules about generator hours be damned.
  • RoyB's avatar
    RoyB
    Explorer II
    Everytime I get something new to me I always dry camp in the back yard for a few nights... This is the best place I found to find out how things are suppose to work and I learn from all of this and not be too far from the house...

    ALso found out a long time ago you just can't get something and head for the woods... It always got dark on me aorund 10PM when I did that.

    Its all in the planning...

    My battery bank is only 255AHs capacity and my re-charge source is a Honda 2KW Generator. We run all the things we want to have ON from my duty PSW 600WATT Inverter and have it planned out to reduce my battery bank down to its 50% charge state by 8AM the next morning. Then when allowed to run my generator we can get re-charged back up to the 90% charge state in just a three hour generator run time using the on-board PD9260C 60AMP converter/charger unit.

    After the batteries get back up to their 90% charge state then I know for sure i can make it to 8AM the next morning when we re-charge everything all over again.

    My next goal is add around 400WATTS of solar panels which will reduce my generator run time down to around one hour a day to get past the high current demand time from the battery bank. When the batteries start only wanting to use 6-8AMPS DC charging current then I can allow the solar panels to finish off my re-charge back up to the 90% charge state before I lose high sun...

    This is our daily routine when camping off the power grid here on the East side of the US... Been doing this since 2009 and my three batteries are just now starting to slack off abit on performance...

    All of my items are manual operated - no fancy smart electronics on my OFF-ROAD POPUP camper except the smart mode PD9260C Converter/charger unit... My three panel homemade battery monitor panel tells me what is happening...

    I get my fill of NCIS every night...

    Roy Ken
  • "100# water pressure..........GOOD REGULATOR !!! "

    My thoughts exactly........ a high water pressure reading does not make it "good".. With those numbers. I would disconnect the water each time I leave. This kind of pressure will blow apart the water fittings - I would not trust the regulator (in this instance), I've had one which partially failed and took out a water fitting.

    Gerry
  • This is one reason I love my dual 30A service. I have a PI EMS on the factory electrical side and the second 30A service doesn't which powers two individual 15A CB protected dual outlets that are generally used for resistive loads like heaters, coffee pot, toaster/convection oven. Thus even with low voltage I'm not completely w/o power albiet severely limited in what I can run.

    Larry
  • If you have granular charger control, try backing way off on the charge current, maybe you can find a happy point.
  • I saw 104V in a RV park one cold morning in Idaho in late Sept. Electrical Heater fan motor wasn't digging it at all, barely spinning fast enough to keep heating coils staying cool.

    175W inverter for powering the TV off of 12V battery, TV draws not even 2 amps off the battery, per hour

    Put an end to RV campgrounds, got a Honda EU2000i generator, and a 150W 12V solar panel, and started dry camping. Problem solved.
  • Generator..............!!!!!

    100# water pressure..........GOOD REGULATOR !!!

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