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Yosemite_Sam1
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Oct 01, 2020

Gremllin in my water pump.

My water pump stopped working after a Doran Beach camping.

And immediately, as we tech and mechanically challenged do, checked on the fuse.

Well, the fuse did not blow up. But noticed that it was 10 Amp while the panel cover says it should have 15.

Bought and replaced the fuse promptly with a 15 Amp.

And the water pump started humming again.

Every electrician I know, only one, my son, an Assistant Chief Enngineer at a big hospital at the CA Bay Area, said that if the fuse did not blow up, it could not have been the cause.

So, it must be the gremlin.:@

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  • Yosemite_Sam1's avatar
    Yosemite_Sam1
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    Old-Biscuit wrote:
    Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
    Thanks everyone for the input. I'll check into those as my son promised to look into it when he comes visit us.

    He also suspected the fuse is blown and it is just not apparent by just looking at it through the red cloudy plastic case. He said it is still supposed to continue working if the fuse has not blown.


    Auto blade type fuse has 2 small openings on top of plastic case that are direct contacts with each side of fuse

    Fuse installed......voltmeter 12VDC ---should read if not blown
    Fuse NOT installed...voltmeter ohm.....should read 0 (zero) if NOT blown ----reads 1 or OL then fuse is bad


    Another good information. I'm learning a lot with this post and your responses.

    Thanks!
  • Old-Biscuit's avatar
    Old-Biscuit
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    Oct 01, 2020
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    Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
    Thanks everyone for the input. I'll check into those as my son promised to look into it when he comes visit us.

    He also suspected the fuse is blown and it is just not apparent by just looking at it through the red cloudy plastic case. He said it is still supposed to continue working if the fuse has not blown.


    Auto blade type fuse has 2 small openings on top of plastic case that are direct contacts with each side of fuse

    Fuse installed......voltmeter 12VDC ---should read if not blown
    Fuse NOT installed...voltmeter ohm.....should read 0 (zero) if NOT blown ----reads 1 or OL then fuse is bad
  • Yosemite_Sam1's avatar
    Yosemite_Sam1
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    Dutch_12078 wrote:
    I've seen fuses used in mobile applications fail over time just from vibration. The giveaway when the fuse is dissected is that the fuse wire is detached from one end cap with no signs of any arcing. Glass fuses seem to be the most prone to that.


    Yeah, that's another possibility and made sure the clips are still tight.
  • Dutch_12078's avatar
    Dutch_12078
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    Oct 01, 2020
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    I've seen fuses used in mobile applications fail over time just from vibration. The giveaway when the fuse is dissected is that the fuse wire is detached from one end cap with no signs of any arcing. Glass fuses seem to be the most prone to that.
  • Yosemite_Sam1's avatar
    Yosemite_Sam1
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    Thanks everyone for the input. I'll check into those as my son promised to look into it when he comes visit us.

    He also suspected the fuse is blown and it is just not apparent by just looking at it through the red cloudy plastic case. He said it is still supposed to continue working if the fuse has not blown.
  • Old-Biscuit's avatar
    Old-Biscuit
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    Oct 01, 2020
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    Look up the specs on your brand/model of pump
    Probably lists 7.5a or 10a

    Pump stopped working but started working when you swapped fuses from 10A to 15A
    That is because the 10A fuse had blown

    Shurflo 4008 requires Minimum 10A Fuse (7.5A full load)
    Shurflo 4048 requires Minimum 10A Fuse (9a full load)
    Course that is with correct wire size.....12ga recommended

    AquaJet ARV & AES Series...15A Fuse
    AquaJet ES Series....10A Fuse


    So what is your pump???
  • craz_z's avatar
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    Recently just went through this.

    old shurflo 2088-403-144 original pump that was standard in everything. switched to the the same thing in the updated model. shurflo revolution series.

    the hum is more then likely the microswitch. if you wiggle the pump wire where the switch lives on the pump from the chassis it might run normal then go back to humming.

    I was in a need to use the pump situation and wired directly to the pump bypassing the switch (2 wires on the motor itself +and-). Problem with this is you have to use the switch in your rv to control the pressure. (not good, but works in a bind.)

    to further diagnose your pump wire direct to the motor and see if it works. bypassing the switch.

    the microswitch is a omron switch that when pressured up opens the contact turning off the pump. they are replaceable for like 10$ on amazon. overtime it looks like water migrates in switch housing and corrodes the switch thus not making proper contact. thus humming begins. It won't draw enough amps to blow the fuse.

    My issue was the pump was leaking at its seals and needed replaced anyway so i bought a new 70$ pump. My pump was in a terrible location and i moved it to a easier spot.

    Bottomline your buying a new pump or try to dissassemble your pump and replace your microswitch

    here is a switch link microswitch

    in the picures on this listing you can see one wire comes from pump motor into switch other wire is chassis positive.
  • wopachop's avatar
    wopachop
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    My water pump says to use 10a. The fuse is wired right next to the pump.

    I think you're looking at your electrical panel and someone wrote 15a on the label?
  • Yosemite_Sam1's avatar
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    Old-Biscuit wrote:
    Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
    agesilaus wrote:
    How did you check the fuse, just a visual inspection may not reveal a blown fuse you need to use a meter to check the resistance.


    I did not bother finding out it was under-rated and may give out anyways when it's most inconvenient, lol.:o


    True
    BUT blown under rated fuse could have been the gremlin

    Visual inspection can miss a blown fuse many times
    Question is....why did it blow
    Cause it was under rated OR because pump motor is drawing to much amperage ?????


    To my simple non-electrical engineer mind, the fact that it was under-rated is already a concern as it could fail anytime. My question is, why did the manufacturer even do that?
  • Old-Biscuit's avatar
    Old-Biscuit
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    Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
    agesilaus wrote:
    How did you check the fuse, just a visual inspection may not reveal a blown fuse you need to use a meter to check the resistance.


    I did not bother finding out it was under-rated and may give out anyways when it's most inconvenient, lol.:o


    True
    BUT blown under rated fuse could have been the gremlin

    Visual inspection can miss a blown fuse many times
    Question is....why did it blow
    Cause it was under rated OR because pump motor is drawing to much amperage ?????

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Old-Biscuit wrote:
Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
Thanks everyone for the input. I'll check into those as my son promised to look into it when he comes visit us.

He also suspected the fuse is blown and it is just not apparent by just looking at it through the red cloudy plastic case. He said it is still supposed to continue working if the fuse has not blown.


Auto blade type fuse has 2 small openings on top of plastic case that are direct contacts with each side of fuse

Fuse installed......voltmeter 12VDC ---should read if not blown
Fuse NOT installed...voltmeter ohm.....should read 0 (zero) if NOT blown ----reads 1 or OL then fuse is bad


Another good information. I'm learning a lot with this post and your responses.

Thanks!","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2020-10-01T16:22:35.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-10-01T16:22:35.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":554},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:3371163/message:3371175","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"847","rawBody":"
Old-Biscuit wrote:
Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
Thanks everyone for the input. I'll check into those as my son promised to look into it when he comes visit us.

He also suspected the fuse is blown and it is just not apparent by just looking at it through the red cloudy plastic case. He said it is still supposed to continue working if the fuse has not blown.


Auto blade type fuse has 2 small openings on top of plastic case that are direct contacts with each side of fuse

Fuse installed......voltmeter 12VDC ---should read if not blown
Fuse NOT installed...voltmeter ohm.....should read 0 (zero) if NOT blown ----reads 1 or OL then fuse is bad


Another good information. I'm learning a lot with this post and your responses.

Thanks!","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3371175_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"Rank:rank:40":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:40","position":31,"name":"Explorer III","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:11932":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:11932","uid":11932,"login":"Old-Biscuit","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2009-06-20T20:19:16.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-11.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:40"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:11932"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3371174":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3371174","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3371174":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:11932"},"id":"message:3371174","revisionNum":1,"uid":3371174,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3371163"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3371163"},"subject":"Re: Gremllin in my water pump.","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3371174"},"body":"
Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
Thanks everyone for the input. I'll check into those as my son promised to look into it when he comes visit us.

He also suspected the fuse is blown and it is just not apparent by just looking at it through the red cloudy plastic case. He said it is still supposed to continue working if the fuse has not blown.


Auto blade type fuse has 2 small openings on top of plastic case that are direct contacts with each side of fuse

Fuse installed......voltmeter 12VDC ---should read if not blown
Fuse NOT installed...voltmeter ohm.....should read 0 (zero) if NOT blown ----reads 1 or OL then fuse is bad","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2020-10-01T16:16:03.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-10-01T16:16:03.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":554},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:3371163/message:3371174","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"686","rawBody":"
Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
Thanks everyone for the input. I'll check into those as my son promised to look into it when he comes visit us.

He also suspected the fuse is blown and it is just not apparent by just looking at it through the red cloudy plastic case. He said it is still supposed to continue working if the fuse has not blown.


Auto blade type fuse has 2 small openings on top of plastic case that are direct contacts with each side of fuse

Fuse installed......voltmeter 12VDC ---should read if not blown
Fuse NOT installed...voltmeter ohm.....should read 0 (zero) if NOT blown ----reads 1 or OL then fuse is bad","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3371174_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3371173":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3371173","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3371173":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:1743"},"id":"message:3371173","revisionNum":1,"uid":3371173,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3371163"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3371163"},"subject":"Re: Gremllin in my water pump.","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3371173"},"body":"
Dutch_12078 wrote:
I've seen fuses used in mobile applications fail over time just from vibration. The giveaway when the fuse is dissected is that the fuse wire is detached from one end cap with no signs of any arcing. Glass fuses seem to be the most prone to that.


Yeah, that's another possibility and made sure the clips are still tight.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2020-10-01T16:14:34.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-10-01T16:14:34.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":555},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:3371163/message:3371173","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"380","rawBody":"
Dutch_12078 wrote:
I've seen fuses used in mobile applications fail over time just from vibration. The giveaway when the fuse is dissected is that the fuse wire is detached from one end cap with no signs of any arcing. Glass fuses seem to be the most prone to that.


Yeah, that's another possibility and made sure the clips are still tight.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3371173_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:382963":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:382963","uid":382963,"login":"Dutch_12078","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2008-10-07T20:52:06.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-5.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:382963"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3371172":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3371172","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3371172":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:382963"},"id":"message:3371172","revisionNum":1,"uid":3371172,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3371163"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3371163"},"subject":"Re: Gremllin in my water pump.","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3371172"},"body":"I've seen fuses used in mobile applications fail over time just from vibration. The giveaway when the fuse is dissected is that the fuse wire is detached from one end cap with no signs of any arcing. Glass fuses seem to be the most prone to that.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2020-10-01T13:49:33.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-10-01T13:49:33.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":555},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:3371163/message:3371172","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"246","rawBody":"I've seen fuses used in mobile applications fail over time just from vibration. The giveaway when the fuse is dissected is that the fuse wire is detached from one end cap with no signs of any arcing. Glass fuses seem to be the most prone to that.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3371172_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3371171":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3371171","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3371171":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:1743"},"id":"message:3371171","revisionNum":1,"uid":3371171,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3371163"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3371163"},"subject":"Re: Gremllin in my water pump.","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3371171"},"body":"Thanks everyone for the input. I'll check into those as my son promised to look into it when he comes visit us.

He also suspected the fuse is blown and it is just not apparent by just looking at it through the red cloudy plastic case. He said it is still supposed to continue working if the fuse has not blown.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2020-10-01T11:26:33.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-10-01T11:26:33.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":556},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:3371163/message:3371171","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"323","rawBody":"Thanks everyone for the input. I'll check into those as my son promised to look into it when he comes visit us.

He also suspected the fuse is blown and it is just not apparent by just looking at it through the red cloudy plastic case. He said it is still supposed to continue working if the fuse has not blown.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3371171_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3371170":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3371170","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3371170":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:11932"},"id":"message:3371170","revisionNum":1,"uid":3371170,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3371163"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3371163"},"subject":"Re: Gremllin in my water pump.","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3371170"},"body":"Look up the specs on your brand/model of pump
Probably lists 7.5a or 10a

Pump stopped working but started working when you swapped fuses from 10A to 15A
That is because the 10A fuse had blown

Shurflo 4008 requires Minimum 10A Fuse (7.5A full load)
Shurflo 4048 requires Minimum 10A Fuse (9a full load)
Course that is with correct wire size.....12ga recommended

AquaJet ARV & AES Series...15A Fuse
AquaJet ES Series....10A Fuse


So what is your pump???","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2020-10-01T10:19:37.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-10-01T10:19:37.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":554},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:3371163/message:3371170","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"530","rawBody":"Look up the specs on your brand/model of pump
Probably lists 7.5a or 10a

Pump stopped working but started working when you swapped fuses from 10A to 15A
That is because the 10A fuse had blown

Shurflo 4008 requires Minimum 10A Fuse (7.5A full load)
Shurflo 4048 requires Minimum 10A Fuse (9a full load)
Course that is with correct wire size.....12ga recommended

AquaJet ARV & AES Series...15A Fuse
AquaJet ES Series....10A Fuse


So what is your pump???","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3371170_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:52406":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:52406","uid":52406,"login":"craz_z","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2014-07-22T20:41:34.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-10.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:52406"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3371169":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3371169","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3371169":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:52406"},"id":"message:3371169","revisionNum":1,"uid":3371169,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3371163"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3371163"},"subject":"Re: Gremllin in my water pump.","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3371169"},"body":"Recently just went through this.

old shurflo 2088-403-144 original pump that was standard in everything. switched to the the same thing in the updated model. shurflo revolution series.

the hum is more then likely the microswitch. if you wiggle the pump wire where the switch lives on the pump from the chassis it might run normal then go back to humming.

I was in a need to use the pump situation and wired directly to the pump bypassing the switch (2 wires on the motor itself +and-). Problem with this is you have to use the switch in your rv to control the pressure. (not good, but works in a bind.)

to further diagnose your pump wire direct to the motor and see if it works. bypassing the switch.

the microswitch is a omron switch that when pressured up opens the contact turning off the pump. they are replaceable for like 10$ on amazon. overtime it looks like water migrates in switch housing and corrodes the switch thus not making proper contact. thus humming begins. It won't draw enough amps to blow the fuse.

My issue was the pump was leaking at its seals and needed replaced anyway so i bought a new 70$ pump. My pump was in a terrible location and i moved it to a easier spot.

Bottomline your buying a new pump or try to dissassemble your pump and replace your microswitch

here is a switch link microswitch

in the picures on this listing you can see one wire comes from pump motor into switch other wire is chassis positive.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2020-10-01T09:58:59.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-10-01T09:58:59.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":554},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:3371163/message:3371169","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1772","rawBody":"Recently just went through this.

old shurflo 2088-403-144 original pump that was standard in everything. switched to the the same thing in the updated model. shurflo revolution series.

the hum is more then likely the microswitch. if you wiggle the pump wire where the switch lives on the pump from the chassis it might run normal then go back to humming.

I was in a need to use the pump situation and wired directly to the pump bypassing the switch (2 wires on the motor itself +and-). Problem with this is you have to use the switch in your rv to control the pressure. (not good, but works in a bind.)

to further diagnose your pump wire direct to the motor and see if it works. bypassing the switch.

the microswitch is a omron switch that when pressured up opens the contact turning off the pump. they are replaceable for like 10$ on amazon. overtime it looks like water migrates in switch housing and corrodes the switch thus not making proper contact. thus humming begins. It won't draw enough amps to blow the fuse.

My issue was the pump was leaking at its seals and needed replaced anyway so i bought a new 70$ pump. My pump was in a terrible location and i moved it to a easier spot.

Bottomline your buying a new pump or try to dissassemble your pump and replace your microswitch

here is a switch link microswitch

in the picures on this listing you can see one wire comes from pump motor into switch other wire is chassis positive.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3371169_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:75931":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:75931","uid":75931,"login":"wopachop","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2006-11-17T19:51:32.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-5.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:75931"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3371168":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3371168","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3371168":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:75931"},"id":"message:3371168","revisionNum":1,"uid":3371168,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3371163"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3371163"},"subject":"Re: Gremllin in my water pump.","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3371168"},"body":"My water pump says to use 10a. The fuse is wired right next to the pump.

I think you're looking at your electrical panel and someone wrote 15a on the label?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"160","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2020-10-01T09:54:06.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-10-01T09:54:06.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":554},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:3371163/message:3371168","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"168","rawBody":"My water pump says to use 10a. The fuse is wired right next to the pump.

I think you're looking at your electrical panel and someone wrote 15a on the label?","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3371168_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3371167":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3371167","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3371167":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:1743"},"id":"message:3371167","revisionNum":1,"uid":3371167,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3371163"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3371163"},"subject":"Re: Gremllin in my water pump.","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3371167"},"body":"
Old-Biscuit wrote:
Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
agesilaus wrote:
How did you check the fuse, just a visual inspection may not reveal a blown fuse you need to use a meter to check the resistance.


I did not bother finding out it was under-rated and may give out anyways when it's most inconvenient, lol.:o


True
BUT blown under rated fuse could have been the gremlin

Visual inspection can miss a blown fuse many times
Question is....why did it blow
Cause it was under rated OR because pump motor is drawing to much amperage ?????


To my simple non-electrical engineer mind, the fact that it was under-rated is already a concern as it could fail anytime. My question is, why did the manufacturer even do that?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2020-10-01T09:12:20.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-10-01T09:12:20.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":554},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:3371163/message:3371167","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"847","rawBody":"
Old-Biscuit wrote:
Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
agesilaus wrote:
How did you check the fuse, just a visual inspection may not reveal a blown fuse you need to use a meter to check the resistance.


I did not bother finding out it was under-rated and may give out anyways when it's most inconvenient, lol.:o


True
BUT blown under rated fuse could have been the gremlin

Visual inspection can miss a blown fuse many times
Question is....why did it blow
Cause it was under rated OR because pump motor is drawing to much amperage ?????


To my simple non-electrical engineer mind, the fact that it was under-rated is already a concern as it could fail anytime. My question is, why did the manufacturer even do that?","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3371167_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3371166":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3371166","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3371166":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:11932"},"id":"message:3371166","revisionNum":1,"uid":3371166,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3371163"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3371163"},"subject":"Re: Gremllin in my water pump.","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3371166"},"body":"
Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
agesilaus wrote:
How did you check the fuse, just a visual inspection may not reveal a blown fuse you need to use a meter to check the resistance.


I did not bother finding out it was under-rated and may give out anyways when it's most inconvenient, lol.:o


True
BUT blown under rated fuse could have been the gremlin

Visual inspection can miss a blown fuse many times
Question is....why did it blow
Cause it was under rated OR because pump motor is drawing to much amperage ?????","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2020-10-01T08:44:52.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-10-01T08:44:52.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":554},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:3371163/message:3371166","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"608","rawBody":"
Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
agesilaus wrote:
How did you check the fuse, just a visual inspection may not reveal a blown fuse you need to use a meter to check the resistance.


I did not bother finding out it was under-rated and may give out anyways when it's most inconvenient, lol.:o


True
BUT blown under rated fuse could have been the gremlin

Visual inspection can miss a blown fuse many times
Question is....why did it blow
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