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todintexas
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Jun 16, 2015

Help with fridge refrigerator electrical issue

Hi Folks,

I have a "new to me" bus conversion, built on a 1992 Flxible Metro. This is not a professional conversion but as a 30yr member of the construction industry I can tell you for the most part it is very well done and seems to follow most RV guidelines. My problem is with the fridge.. When I purchased the bus it had only a very small, AC only fridge. I remodeled the galley area and installed a used Norcold 1200LRIM, the fridge came from a trusted source and was functioning fine in Feb of this year, all recalls have been attended to. Last night, I hooked everything up and discovered an electrical problem. The fridge immediately trips the GFI, both in the coach and on the pole (it's currently plugged into just a 15 amp breaker with a 30 amp to 15 amp adapter). The trip occurs as soon as the plug hits the outlet, even before the fridge is turned on. Here is the strange part, the fridge works just fine on AC with the generator running. I have not tried to run it on propane yet but do hear that the igniter is activating. Everything else in the coach works fine, and the AC has run off this shore power plug many times with no issues so I don't think that it is a power problem. Any ideas what I should look for? Possibly a wiring issue in the shore power plug but seems unlikely since everything worked fine without the fridge plugged in. I've read several posts concerning failed heating elements but that also seems unlikely as the AC side of the fridge appears to be functioning normally under generator power. Help!?!?
  • todintexas wrote:
    Thanks Doug, that will be my first avenue of troubleshooting this afternoon. If the source of the trip is the heating element, and it goes away when they are unplugged, any idea why the fridge would operate normally on the genset? The ice maker is not plugged in, it has a separate 120 plug that I have not even attempted to plug in.


    A ground fault does not mean the heating element doesn't get hot, merely that some voltage is leaking to ground. If it's a high-resistance fault or one at the neutral end of the element, it would behave essentially as usual (but, of course, be more or less of an electrical hazard).

    If the generator has a neutral/ground bond, as a built-in RV generator ought to have, the GFCI should trip under generator power. (Obviously, that's just the GFCI in the motorhome, not the one in the house!)
  • Thanks Doug, that will be my first avenue of troubleshooting this afternoon. If the source of the trip is the heating element, and it goes away when they are unplugged, any idea why the fridge would operate normally on the genset? The ice maker is not plugged in, it has a separate 120 plug that I have not even attempted to plug in.
  • 2 THINGS.
    1. The ICEMAKER could trip a GFCI. Disconnect the leads to the Icemaker
    2. The Heating elements. Disconnect them.
    If the GFCI trip goes away, you know which part is causing it. Doug
  • Hmm.. sounds like I need to look into polarity first, and also not rule out an internal problem due to the different type power provided by the generator. The generator is a Generac PrimePac 50 and the manual shows the "T2" lead as "a grounded neutral lead". Thanks for the replies, big trip this weekend and hoping to find the source of the issue.
  • You haven't mentioned the make / model of genset you have but it may, as many do, have a floating neutral output whereas any shore power feed would normally be N>G bonded at the distribution box, so based on this alone I'd first check both with a polarity checker to see what you have in terms of source power.
  • I would start w/ using a polarity tester in the fridge receptical.
    I know, it works on the genset, but if the ground wire......ect etc........