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- qtla9111NomadWe have two 6V batteries that are five years old and getting a bit ragged. We use a cheap Sunbeam electric blanket that we bought at Walmart. We put it under the fitted sheet and keep it on the lowest setting L (L to 10). It generates a lot of heat and being under the fitted sheet and having a blanket on top of you keeps you toasty warm.
I went out and turned it on this afternoon, even though we have solar and it's already 6:15 p.m, the solar is covered by trees and it is cloudy and raining so there is little to nothing coming into the batteries. The blanket is rolled up and covered with a blanket as if we were in bed.
The reading has gone from 12.6 to 12.5 and it's been over two hours. Keep it simple and enjoy the cold winter. When we were in Canada last May at Botanie Lake in Lytton, BC, we used our Little Buddy heater. We were at 6500ft and it was -6C. On the low setting we were burning up, we had two vents and a window cracked. Worked great. We purposely left our Honda 2000 at home and we did just fine on battery and the LB heater.
I recommend the electric blanket. It's a real jewel. - Empty_Nest__SooExplorer
brulaz wrote:
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We've really noticed the reduced condensation with dual pane windows.
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Camping in the same place at the same time of year, we've gone from tons of condensation to virtually none since we went to a rig with dual pane glass. It is hard to compare heat loss and other effects, since the rigs are so different in so many ways, but being rid of the condensation curse alone makes it worth it.
Wayne - brulazExplorer
jhilley wrote:
I am not convinced of the worth of dual pane windows. I have two Winnebago motor homes, an Adventurer with dual pane windows and a Brave without. I don't see a significant difference.
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We've really noticed the reduced condensation with dual pane windows.
Have also noticed reduced noise and draftiness, but that could also be the thicker walls and improved general construction in our new 4 season trailer. - jhilleyExplorerI am not convinced of the worth of dual pane windows. I have two Winnebago motor homes, an Adventurer with dual pane windows and a Brave without. I don't see a significant difference. I need to replace the drivers side front quarter window for the second time. The front window is a big loss of heat, so preventing that makes a big difference.
We built a new house last winter so lived in the 38' Adventurer from October to April. We saw temps down to -20 degrees F. We burned 4 gallons of propane per day as well as having about 2,000 watts of electric space heaters. Every thing functioned all the way through and we stayed about 68 F. - Empty_Nest__SooExplorer
arto_wa wrote:
Winter camping is more doable and more common in most places out west I suppose.
Camping on The Columbia River in early January:
More doable, for sure.
In the place where I like to camp in the Allegheny Highlands, several feet of snow is commonplace in January. Varies from year-to-year, but I don't want to risk being stranded in a remote area until the spring thaw.
My daughter and son-in-law used to live in Portland. I love the Pacific NW.
Wayne - Empty_Nest__SooExplorer
brulaz wrote:
For some reason, you see more of the cold weather options available on the lots out west, both in the US and Canada. A couple of the major manufacturers of 4-season trailers are located in Oregon: Artic Fox and Outdoors RV. Their trailers are available throughout the West (US and Canada) but rare in the East.
Pretty hard to find a trailer in Ontario with 4-season options like double-pane windows. But they are quite common in B.C., at least the Artic Fox and Outdoors RV versions are.
I spent a long time looking for a 4-season travel trailer before deciding on a motorhome instead, and that matches what I found available anywhere nearby – very few available with dual pane windows, enclosed floors, and extra insulation. Arctic Fox and Outdoors models are all but non-existent in the east, but more widely available out west. In the literature for other brands, several of them offer these features as options, but dealers here in the mid-Atlantic don’t seem to order them in units they buy to stock on their lots.
I spend a lot of time camping here in the Allegheny Highlands of WV in March and early April. Temperatures are normally in the 20’s or 30’s overnight and going up to the high-50s to low-80’s during the day. Not unusual to have frost in the morning and be wearing just a t-shirt in the afternoon. My experience doing this for many years in a typical TT made me resolve to never buy another RV without dual pane windows, enclosed floors and tanks, and better insulation. I learned to deal with frozen pipes (they would usually thaw later in the day) but that and condensation pouring from single-pane windows takes a lot of the fun out of it.
I don’t have those problems now with the motorhome. :)
Wayne - arto_waExplorer
brulaz wrote:
For some reason, you see more of the cold weather options available on the lots out west, both in the US and Canada. A couple of the major manufacturers of 4-season trailers are located in Oregon: Artic Fox and Outdoors RV. Their trailers are available throughout the West (US and Canada) but rare in the East.
Pretty hard to find a trailer in Ontario with 4-season options like double-pane windows. But they are quite common in B.C., at least the Artic Fox and Outdoors RV versions are.
Winter camping is more doable and more common in most places out west I suppose.
Camping on The Columbia River in early January: - brulazExplorerHeh, we go to Florida. But even there, I appreciate the increased insulation of a 4-Season trailer with double-pane windows.
It's not so much the camping in winter I dislike, it's the driving/towing. And I'm sure the salt on Ontario roads in winter would not be good for the trailer (or truck). - SoundGuyExplorer
brulaz wrote:
Pretty hard to find a trailer in Ontario with 4-season options like double-pane windows. But they are quite common in B.C., at least the Artic Fox and Outdoors RV versions are.
Yet winter camping @ -20C here in Ontario is hosted by several campgrounds that are open year round. Having tried winter camping myself it's not for me but many others do take pleasure in it as evidenced by the fact these winter programs continue to be quite popular.
Winter Camping at MacGregor Point Provincial Park in Ontario - brulazExplorerFor some reason, you see more of the cold weather options available on the lots out west, both in the US and Canada. A couple of the major manufacturers of 4-season trailers are located in Oregon: Artic Fox and Outdoors RV. Their trailers are available throughout the West (US and Canada) but rare in the East.
Pretty hard to find a trailer in Ontario with 4-season options like double-pane windows. But they are quite common in B.C., at least the Artic Fox and Outdoors RV versions are.
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