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I am unable to find the power source for the GFCi and fixture. Any idea on finding the power source. The brick column was added by the previous owner. Unable to find any buried wiring coming from brick column because concrete was poured around it. My next step is to pull cover plates on receptacles on that side of the house to check to see if additional connections are added but I would think that the light should have a switch. I can understand that the GFCI may be wired to the in house receptacle on the opposite of the wall.
I have thought of turning all breakers off except one and using that breaker to back feed the light fixture to see if it returned power to a breaker that has no power. Any ideas?","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2014-11-06T06:57:44.000-08:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1435130_1"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":5976},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"customFields":[],"body":"Son bought a house that is several years old and is updating outside light fixtures. On the far side of the house is a GFCI that has no power. On a brick column near it is a light fixture that I was going to change. Using a voltage detector I found no voltage. I removed the fixture and in the process 2 wires touched and arced. Testing again the wires showed no voltage. I replaced the fixture and then checked the breakers. None tripped. I checked all the receptacles on that side of the house and found that they all worked. Checked every GFCI in the house and they all worked. Checked all switches and they work on all fixtures.
I am unable to find the power source for the GFCi and fixture. Any idea on finding the power source. The brick column was added by the previous owner. Unable to find any buried wiring coming from brick column because concrete was poured around it. My next step is to pull cover plates on receptacles on that side of the house to check to see if additional connections are added but I would think that the light should have a switch. I can understand that the GFCI may be wired to the in house receptacle on the opposite of the wall.
I have thought of turning all breakers off except one and using that breaker to back feed the light fixture to see if it returned power to a breaker that has no power. Any ideas?"},"Conversation:conversation:1435130":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:1435130","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1435130"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2014-12-31T06:12:11.000-08:00","lastPostTime":"2014-12-31T06:12:11.000-08:00","unreadReplyCount":28,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1435130":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1435130","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:1435130_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:1435130_1","lastEditTime":"2014-11-06T06:57:44.000-08:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1435140":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:1435140","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1435130"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:2884"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":1435140,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"subject":"Re: Identify power source-UPDATE","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1435140"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1435130"},"body":"If your voltage detector found no voltage, but the wires arced. FAULTY VOLTAGE DETECTOR.
Can not comment on the GFCI
Wire Trackers (harbor freight sells one) may assist you in tracing the problem down.","body@stringLength":"223","rawBody":"If your voltage detector found no voltage, but the wires arced. FAULTY VOLTAGE DETECTOR.