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MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
Lithium: 100% discharge. 0% Remaining

Mex ... I think you may have unknowingly quote-defined what LAH means.

Since one can draw down this batt to zero percent before recharge, as opposed to only taking a LA batt down to fifty percent before recharge .... one of these 288 LAH Group 31 Batteries-for-the-Blind can be used twice as long before recharge as a 144 AH Group 31 good old lead acid battery before recharge.

Makes perfect non-hoopla sense to me. ;)

Ooooooooo 10.2 volts! Just imagine! Another sixth tenths of a volt and person would be right down there with the BCI voltage load test.

Da inverter be impressed so much, it drops it's shorts when it learns de power be comin' from LITH-E-YUM. No low voltage drop out. It wouldn't DARE. Not in front of a two grand battery.

Lithium has positive and negative attributes just like everything else. Does it have TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH of positive attributes? I mean over a Lifeline 31?

Of course they're going to pile-it-on-deep when bragging about it. They have to. People with more-money-than-wisdom have to have a flagrant amount of hocus-pocus spewn to separate banknotes from their person. Usually half-million dollar buses, that waddle from one luxury campground pedestal to the next. How much currency is "Umm well, I have a Lithium battery bank" worth?

To each their own. Rubies would have clashed with Fifi's temperament.

MEXICOWANDERER wrote:



Braille Battery i31D Intensity 12V Group 31 Deep Cycle Lithium Battery
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Item Weight 27.7 pounds
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Hmm..

Specs say this.. HERE

"27.9 pounds in weight
1650 pulse cranking amperes
288 Lithium Amp Hour (LAH)
Left side positive"

Lithium Ahr??? My BS meter is pegged..

From BRAILLEBATTERY Here is their explanation..

"When a battery is in a fully charged state it stores electrical energy. The amount of usable energy in this state to perform a function will vary greatly depending on factors such as load, time, and temperature.


In a lead-acid battery, the amount of the load will greatly affect the battery’s usable capacity, which is based on the Peukert equation. The ability for lead-acid batteries to sustain a load is relative to the specific battery’s capacity. A typical lead-acid battery will experience an extreme voltage drop when a heavy load is placed on the battery. Often, if the load exceeds the battery’s sustainable ability, the battery’s voltage will drop to an unusable level and the battery will fail.


Due to vast improvements in electrical ability found in Braille’s Lithium Battery Technology, the usable capacity of Braille’s lithium batteries are able to sustain over 10.2 volts under load. This is, on average, the same as lead-acid batteries with 3 times the standard capacity rating. This usable power rating, represented by voltage under load, is called a Lithium Amp Hour rating (LAH).
The Lithium Amp Hour rating can be used as a guide to help determine the correct battery when attempting to achieve premium weight and size benefits using Braille Lithium Batteries. For example, if a 30 AH, lead-acid battery is currently being used, it may be upgraded with a 30 LAH rating Braille Lithium Battery, which under equal loads, will deliver similar draw down performance. While the Lithium Amp Hour (LAH) rating is very useful for providing an insight into the advanced performance of Braille’s Lithium Batteries, it is not a replacement measurement for the traditional AH rating, which should be used to determine charging rates, total discharge performance, and long-term storage calculations.

The following graph depicts the way a Braille Lithium Battery will perform relative to its state of charge and load. The graph also illustrates the battery’s ability to deliver critical starting, lighting, or ignition (SLI) performance even while not fully charged. It is clear the advantages of Braille’s Lithium Battery technology over traditional lead-acid batteries and the use of LAH helps to determine the perfect lithium battery for specific needs. "

I suspect that LAH is a term that Braillebattery has created as a buzzword and actual REAL Ahr rating is less than what they are stating.. Especially when they are not using any real standard battery capacity testing specs like 5 hr rate or 20 hr rate..

Lithium: 100% discharge. 0% Remaining

But we won't talk about what that does to cycle life.

Roughly FIVE TIMES the cost of AGM equalizing the 50% vs 100% discharge cycle.

Expect an AGM heavily used to get 5 years of life.

That means this critter would have to live 25-years just to be equal

But I DO SEE a great weight and space savings.

A GIGANTIC LACK of information about a warranty.

But several grand buys a person gold-star B.S. privileges at a communal camp fire.

jplante4 wrote:
So that's $10 grand in house batteries for me, half what I paid for the whole bus. And a possibility of thermal runaway if the solor panel controller screws up.

Let me think on it...

You can save $137.45 if you buy now ... or save $2,886.45 if you don't buy at all. :-) I wonder what the anticipated battery lifetime might be. At this price it's gotta be over 50 years!

I assume the battery has some pretty good management electronics built in. I see it is rated at 288 "LAH". Lithium Amp Hours. Wonder how that is different from a lead acid amp hour.

So that's $10 grand in house batteries for me, half what I paid for the whole bus. And a possibility of thermal runaway if the solor panel controller screws up.

Let me think on it...