3000W Chinese Gensets Info.
professor95 wrote: EDIT ADDED 45/5/2013- When this thread started in March of 2005, I never expected to see it survive this long or amass the quantity of information that has been shared here. In...
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Thanks for the notes of appreciation, it took alot more time writing and rewriting all of that to make sense than anything else! Had it not been for a pm of encouragement from somebody I came to respect in reading most of this thread it may have ended with eff em if they dont want to know.
I figured the orange adapter was just too good to be true!
Prof, do tell with pics of your creation when the storm gets done with you... but then you might be needing it! Hope for all effected to come out ok. Being fully aware of my loads now kind of indicates that I may be able to get by as is, but then again I am not known for leaving things alone.
Yes it seems that the numbers on the package are no indication of actual output, that was partially evident in the specs tho. I cant help but wonder what actual proven capability of others is in comparison to claimed.
To answer some questins...
I have absolutly no inkling to rip out my built in and replace it with this nor do I suggest anyone else does. Even if some major problem was to surface with th onan I doubt it. Time will tell on how long this thing goes for... throw away probably more likely than not. If it does see an early demise I will struggle with thoughts that agressive testing played a part. Lets hope not!
Normally I am the type that only runs a gen when absolutly necessary and as a result batteries can take a beating. It is mostly an economics kind of thing along with the noise. To give you an idea I had a 4kw microlite in my previous 01.. to 06 MH and I dont think I broke much more than a hundred hours with it. I didnt care much for the high rpm's and noise, it was just past the edge of being annoying for me. My 06 has about a hundred hours now, the lower rpms make it easier to take so I have used it more.
With this handy I dont have any reason to abuse batteries, the low rpm and better economy may compel me to use it quite alot. I expect at least a hundred hours a year possibly more. So if it lasts four or five years I am sure that there will be better and maybe cheaper out there.
It is exciting the increases in efficiency that comes with this technology, can you imagine using this method of generation on a small efficient diesel engine? I think light loads going up to 8 hours on a gallon of fuel could be possible.
I think onan and the like needs to take the bull by the horns on this with a new line of lighter, quieter and efficient rv gen sets if they can work past the patent hurdles. They seem to be producing some smaller units but for all I know they are just putting their name on on the side of something not too unlike this.
I think honda is missing the boat in not producing a size up from the 2kw that is more convienent than the 3kw. All sales are probably sagging, evident by rebates and special offers. I have never lifted a 3kw but it looks like a two man lift and I generally dont go camping with two men. :)
As far as the speed this runs... maybe I could access something to get a photo tach on but for now I can only guess. I think it idles in economy at 1800 rpm or less, 1750 watts seems roughtly 3600rpm which matches the economy off speed I am not sure yet if that is annoying for me. Full output may be 5000 rpm and it would bother me in more ways than one to have it there for long. I think this will spend most of its time running a load between 1 and 1.5kw and it seems easy to live with at those loads in the economy mode.
I didnt think of using my clamp on analog current meter to measure the surge... DOH! Come to think about it I have a snap-on digital advance timing light that gives rpm's maybe we will see how close I am!
I will ask the seller to get me a price on the digital box and have him send me a plugs and air filters in leiw of the rebate for what I allready have.
Ray
I figured the orange adapter was just too good to be true!
Prof, do tell with pics of your creation when the storm gets done with you... but then you might be needing it! Hope for all effected to come out ok. Being fully aware of my loads now kind of indicates that I may be able to get by as is, but then again I am not known for leaving things alone.
Yes it seems that the numbers on the package are no indication of actual output, that was partially evident in the specs tho. I cant help but wonder what actual proven capability of others is in comparison to claimed.
To answer some questins...
I have absolutly no inkling to rip out my built in and replace it with this nor do I suggest anyone else does. Even if some major problem was to surface with th onan I doubt it. Time will tell on how long this thing goes for... throw away probably more likely than not. If it does see an early demise I will struggle with thoughts that agressive testing played a part. Lets hope not!
Normally I am the type that only runs a gen when absolutly necessary and as a result batteries can take a beating. It is mostly an economics kind of thing along with the noise. To give you an idea I had a 4kw microlite in my previous 01.. to 06 MH and I dont think I broke much more than a hundred hours with it. I didnt care much for the high rpm's and noise, it was just past the edge of being annoying for me. My 06 has about a hundred hours now, the lower rpms make it easier to take so I have used it more.
With this handy I dont have any reason to abuse batteries, the low rpm and better economy may compel me to use it quite alot. I expect at least a hundred hours a year possibly more. So if it lasts four or five years I am sure that there will be better and maybe cheaper out there.
It is exciting the increases in efficiency that comes with this technology, can you imagine using this method of generation on a small efficient diesel engine? I think light loads going up to 8 hours on a gallon of fuel could be possible.
I think onan and the like needs to take the bull by the horns on this with a new line of lighter, quieter and efficient rv gen sets if they can work past the patent hurdles. They seem to be producing some smaller units but for all I know they are just putting their name on on the side of something not too unlike this.
I think honda is missing the boat in not producing a size up from the 2kw that is more convienent than the 3kw. All sales are probably sagging, evident by rebates and special offers. I have never lifted a 3kw but it looks like a two man lift and I generally dont go camping with two men. :)
As far as the speed this runs... maybe I could access something to get a photo tach on but for now I can only guess. I think it idles in economy at 1800 rpm or less, 1750 watts seems roughtly 3600rpm which matches the economy off speed I am not sure yet if that is annoying for me. Full output may be 5000 rpm and it would bother me in more ways than one to have it there for long. I think this will spend most of its time running a load between 1 and 1.5kw and it seems easy to live with at those loads in the economy mode.
I didnt think of using my clamp on analog current meter to measure the surge... DOH! Come to think about it I have a snap-on digital advance timing light that gives rpm's maybe we will see how close I am!
I will ask the seller to get me a price on the digital box and have him send me a plugs and air filters in leiw of the rebate for what I allready have.
Ray
