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Aug 08, 2018

Suspected Converter Problem

Hey guys, back again. Hoping to gain some insight into an ongoing problem we've had this summer.

RV is a 2004 Fleetwood Terry Quantum AX6 365FLTS.

The rv came with a factory installed WFCO 8855 converter. First things first. If you go to their website, you will see 8855's are 220v input. This may be the case now but certainly wasn't in 2004. Mine is 120v input and I have photographic proof. Let's please not waste time disputing this.

WFCO says the 9855 would be pretty much an equivalent now.

Anyways, onto the issue. I am wondering if there may be a problem with my converter. The reason I suspect it is because of generally poor performance. In the off season, I replaced the single group 24 battery the PO was kind of enough to leave me with a pair of Group 31 AGM batteries, 105Ah apiece.

It seems that this charger takes forever to charge these things. We're talking like if the wall panel shows 2/3 full, I need to run the generator for like 8 hours to charge them.

On a recent trip, the Batts showed 1/3 full and even after running the generator for seriously like 12 hours, they only showed 2/3. This seems slow. I know the indicator system probably isn't scientific level accuracy, but reading at the Batts with a multimeter seems to corroborate.

Other weird issues:

Sometimes at night with our 12v lights on in the camper (LED retrofits), I can see the lights flickering.

I get substantially different readings on the multimeter if I probe the output terminals of the converter versus the batt terminals. This despite the cables connecting the two being less than 4 feet long. For example, I forced the converter into boost mode. When probing the outputs, I got like 14.46v. At the batt terminals, I get like 12.43v. This seems especially odd to me considering any other time I probe battery terminals with a charger connected and charging, it seems like I'm reading the charger output voltage.

Lastly, I pulled the troubleshooting chart from WFCO and followed all steps. According to the chart (link below), my converter is fine. But it certainly doesn't behave like it's fine. I know PD advertises that when in boost mode, it takes 2-3 hours to bring the battery bank to 90%. Admittedly, this WFCO isn't as good as a PD, but 12 hours? Really?

http://wfcoelectronics.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/New-Flow-Chart-for-WF-9800-Series.pdf

I have my eye on a PD9260, but I don't want to spend the money if there's something else wrong.

This past weekend the batteries were completely dead and we brought them home to charge on a more "conventional" charger. It took a long time, but it worked.

Any ideas? Are my batteries just THAT big? Or is there something else going on?

Tell me what you guys think.

108 Replies

  • Find out what voltage your particular AGM's wish to be charged at. Then buy the equipment that can satisfy those needs.

    It may be best to use temperature compensated charging.
  • beemerphile1 wrote:
    If you read 14.46 at the converter but only 12.43 at the batteries, you have a wiring problem, not a converter problem.

    If your retrofit LEDs flicker, that could just be cheap China product LEDs, not necessarily the converter.


    I think a high resistance connection could also contribute to flickering, could it not? If only one or two lights were flickering, I'd blame the LED quality, but all of them?

    I'll start with checking the connections. Best way would be to disconnect power and measure resistance across cables and connection points, correct?
  • If you read 14.46 at the converter but only 12.43 at the batteries, you have a wiring problem, not a converter problem.

    If your retrofit LEDs flicker, that could just be cheap China product LEDs, not necessarily the converter.
  • Lights flicker may be an indication that a rectifier is bad so you're ending up with half-wave rectification rather than full-wave. That would cause flickering lights and maybe one of the reasons charging is taking so long.
  • siggyd777 wrote:
    If the WFCO output is 14.4 VDC, then you should see about 14 Volts on the batteries!...or you have a bad connection / or an open connection if you only see 12.5 volts. Check if there is a bad fuse or solenoid in between.
    Siggy


    Excellent point!

    A high resistance connection could certainly be causing the issues described.

    I'm relatively certain there isn't an open connection as the converter does work, just extremely slowly. Furthermore, one of the troubleshooting steps was to disconnect the battery entirely and see if the converter can handle 12v loads in the trailer. It did so, even high draw items like the electric awning and slide outs.

    There are no fuses or solenoids in the wiring. Maybe that's a bad design, but probably a different discussion.
  • BFL13 wrote:
    Leaving for a moment what might be going on with your set-up, how did you manage to force your WFCO to the boost mode? There is no boost button.

    Here are example charging times for a similar size battery bank using chargers set at 14.6v that hold that voltage for the entire recharge time (some will drop to 13.6 half way through--not the case here)

    You would never try to fully recharge the batteries from 90-100 full on generator, since it would take forever. Do that when you have shore power.



    My converter has a pendant that can be plugged into a phone jack just like the charge wizard pendant on PD converters. I can hold the button down to cycle the modes.

    Why do you say the reduced voltage is "not the case here"? The 8855 is a 3 stage charger so if I don't interfere, I assume it will drop to the lower voltage once bulk charging is complete. Right? I've noticed the charger stays in boost mode forever (indicated by the LED on the pendant). It seems that boost mode isn't having the intended effect.

    Your chart certainly seems to corroborate what my research has turned up. I should be getting a majority charge on the batteries in 2-3 hours, not 8-12.
  • If the WFCO output is 14.4 VDC, then you should see about 14 Volts on the batteries!...or you have a bad connection / or an open connection if you only see 12.5 volts. Check if there is a bad fuse or solenoid in between.
    Siggy
  • Leaving for a moment what might be going on with your set-up, how did you manage to force your WFCO to the boost mode? There is no boost button.

    Here are example charging times for a similar size battery bank using chargers set at 14.6v that hold that voltage for the entire recharge time (some will drop to 13.6 half way through--not the case here)

    You would never try to fully recharge the batteries from 90-100 full on generator, since it would take forever. Do that when you have shore power.

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