The cat is out of the bag ! New Honda Generator !!

There is no pigtail when transporting. just a bottle.
Equipment malfunction is a seperate issue.

Lantley wrote:
I've spilled/leaked a little gasoline on occaision, however I have never had any lp spills or leaks during transport.

As I alluded to in a previous post, I have lost the entire contents of a 30# propane tank. The pigtail developed a slow leak. I have never lost the entire contents of a gasoline can.

So, what's your point?

time2roll wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:

time2roll wrote:
Just hope there is never a leak in the gasoline can ;)

Or the propane tank...what's your point?

Could happen to either one.

I have transported lots of gas cans and prpane tanks.
While I agree it doesn't happen every time.
I've spilled/leaked a little gasoline on occaision, however I have never had any lp spills or leaks during transport.

valhalla360 wrote:

time2roll wrote:
Just hope there is never a leak in the gasoline can ;)

Or the propane tank...what's your point?

Could happen to either one.

I have a dual fuel gen. Have never put gas in it. The gen is a little larger, but not large, can run the A/C and recharge the batteries. The only reason I have it is for those 2 reasons. Propane is 100% the way to go. Much easier to transport, in the bed of your truck, storage unit on RV. I can go days on a single tank - I only run it to recharge the batteries or run the A/C so a few hours a day at best. Maybe watch a movie at night after dark - shutting it off by 9. If we did run out of propane from the bottle(s) I bring, my RV has 2 30 gallon tanks, those can go all season and longer, so if I needed to grab one, I can. By the way, we also have a propane fire pit, so needless to say, we bring extra propane. Not a big deal, easy to fill, and a couple extra tanks can easily last a long trip without ever thinking about refilling. If I wanted to run the generator all day, which we did on a trip to MT, had the dogs in the trailer and needed to run the A/C for their comfort, we got 4 days out of 2 tanks and didn't drain the tanks.

Another benefit to propane - no issues with the carb. Today's fuel cruds up the carbs really bad on my lawn equipment and sons quad. I always buy ethanol free gas, but still plays havoc on some power equipment. Would hate to get out there and find out I need to clean out the carb to get the gen running. Dual Fuel is a great solution, wouldn't buy an RV generator that wasn't dual fuel now that I know.

Lantley wrote:

Bobbo wrote:

Lantley wrote:
carrying/transprting gas just for the genset becomes its own issue. . . . An additional lp tank generally resolves the effeciency issue.

So carry an additional propane bottle or a gas can. I can see no difference between those two choices. For me, the increase in BTU's from gasoline would be the deciding difference. Not to mention, more gasoline can be had, literally, EVERYWHERE. Even when the gas station is closed sometimes. Finding propane can be more problematic, as we discovered at 6pm one Saturday night while boondocking when our propane tank ran empty and we discovered that the second propane tank had developed a leak in the pigtail, and was also empty. Fun times.

I think that where you are missing my point.
With lp I don't need to carry an extra can because I have lp on board already. Most RV's already have lp.
There are lots of diesel vehicles pulling RV trailers that don't have gas available but they do have lp available.
If you have a gas powered tow vehicle gas is readily available. But if you have a diesel vehicle lp becomes a more convenient option.
For me BTU efficiency is way down on my list of criteria

Lol
Don’t pull a hammy there, stretchin Langley!

Lantley wrote:
I don't disagree that lp has it shortcomings. But carrying/transprting gas just for the genset becomes its own issue. Especially when you have LP to spare.
Fuel injection does not solve the gas can issue. An additional lp tank generally resolves the effeciency issue.
If you have a diesel vehicle lp becomes a more viable option vs. dedicated genset gas cans.

Uhh ok….
What if you have a diesel vehicle, 60 lb of LP and 30 gal of gas onboard?
(My point is, youre stretching to make whatever point you’re trying to make)

Bobbo wrote:

Lantley wrote:
carrying/transprting gas just for the genset becomes its own issue. . . . An additional lp tank generally resolves the effeciency issue.

So carry an additional propane bottle or a gas can. I can see no difference between those two choices. For me, the increase in BTU's from gasoline would be the deciding difference. Not to mention, more gasoline can be had, literally, EVERYWHERE. Even when the gas station is closed sometimes. Finding propane can be more problematic, as we discovered at 6pm one Saturday night while boondocking when our propane tank ran empty and we discovered that the second propane tank had developed a leak in the pigtail, and was also empty. Fun times.

I think that where you are missing my point.
With lp I don't need to carry an extra can because I have lp on board already. Most RV's already have lp.
There are lots of diesel vehicles pulling RV trailers that don't have gas available but they do have lp available.
If you have a gas powered tow vehicle gas is readily available. But if you have a diesel vehicle lp becomes a more convenient option.
For me BTU efficiency is way down on my list of criteria

time2roll wrote:
Just hope there is never a leak in the gasoline can ;)

Or the propane tank...what's your point?

Grit dog wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:

Lantley wrote:
The real mystery is why Honda did not consider a LP fuel option?

Because fuel injection largely eliminates fuel related problems.

But mostly because LP generators are less effective and less efficient and use up your propane very quickly. IMO, the advantages of LP generators are quickly up-staged by the short comings of them.

Only if you take a generator designed around gasoline and you apply an adapter.

I do agree that storage and obtaining propane is more of a hassle but against an old carbureted unit gumming up, it's a good trade off. If they solve it by fuel injection, there is simply no need to mess about with propane.