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- RWDIIIExplorerI went from a 2006 5.4 4wd F150 to a 2015 F250 4wd 6.2.Both were Scabs
these are my observation after 5,000 miles,with over 100 miles on a 4x4 trip on the Bradshaw trail in the SoCal desert
I would not do anything to mess up the warranty
I saved about $5000 off of a HD150
The 6 speed is awesome,as is the electric locker
The 6.2 gets about 1Mpg less than the 5.4
Once you get going the power is better
Once you are in 4wd the Traction control is turned off
This comparison Is with the same camper
I have 400mi range with camper@ 12.3mpg
I have over500 mi range Without @ 15.5 - _DJ_1Explorer II
Gdetrailer wrote:
~DJ~ wrote:
Gdetrailer wrote:
~DJ~ wrote:
I hear time and time again "I put a cold air intake on my truck and noticed zero difference".
Of course you didn't!! The computer wasn't calling for more air. Even a less restrictive exhaust won't help. But add a tuner to the mix and all 3 work together putting a big grin on your face!!
6.2 does not "need" ANY "mods", it has an intake/filter which can easily flow MORE than that engine will ever be able to process.
The exhaust system is ALSO plenty large enough to handle the what the engine can put out and more..
It is a well designed setup that only the over the top gear heads can't believe that no mods are needed.
Yes, it is not a 6.7 diesel and yes, it is not turbo charged like a Eco Boost but it DOESN'T COST AS MUCH TO BUY UPFRONT as either of those other two.
But it DOES already have plenty of grunt, that grunt is UNDER control via the torque management system and other than being heavy handed in the control department it tows like a dream ONCE you "learn" how it really works..
I have towed as much as 9K with mine and you still can't wipe the smile off my face.
Best part of all is it cost me nearly $10,000 LESS than a 6.7 and $8,000 less than a F150 Eco boost..
It's intake/exhaust is capable of flowing more air than the COMPUTER can call for!! Not so when you add the tuner.
No, the 6.2 doesn't NEED any mods but what does that have to do with WANT? :B
Hmm.. interesting, so you are saying a programmer WILL be able to RAISE the MAX RPM of the ENGINE OVER THE RED LINE?
I call BS on that..
The STOCK exhaust pipe/muffler on my 6.2 is 3.5" diameter, the air intake is about 4". The air flow for that size pretty well ABOVE ALL RPMS BELOW RED LINE.
Programmers do not increase the redline RPMs, they simply play with the fuel trim, fuel mapping, alter the torque management and play with shift points. You might see a small increase in HP but it will COST YOU IN GAS MILEAGE AND WARRANTY to do so..
If you have an extra $10K-$20K in your back pocket that you can afford to repair or rebuild your engine go right ahead.. Ford won't touch under warranty it once you add a programmer..
You're absolute correct to call BS on that. That is not what I am saying. A tuner will not take you over red line but can get you there faster, yes, by changing factory settings. Gas tuners don't have the amount of improvement a diesel tuner has but there is still improvement proven on dynos again and again.
You're also correct on rolling the dice with your warranty. If your AC or heater quits you may be OK. Any drive train issues and you're going to pay for that yourself.
I am not disagreeing with you. I'm just saying they do work.
My 3 yr/36K warranty is gone. My 5 yr/60K warranty was voided when I lifted it.
It is in the shop this week trading 373 gears for 430. With my 35" tires should put me close to 410. If I am happy with this change I will add a tuner and cold air intake to my cat back. If not, well, Rousch makes a darn fine supercharger!!! :) - spud1957Explorer
Powerdude wrote:
Gdetrailer wrote:
Best part of all is it cost me nearly $10,000 LESS than a 6.7 and $8,000 less than a F150 Eco boost..
I was playing around with the Build-to-order, and that is definitely right.
The new F150 is aluminum, and guess what? You PAY, PAY and PAY for all the materials and engineering that went into that. Is it really needed?
Maybe, but do I need it? Hardly, so why should I pay for something I don't need? I can buy a Coke can if I need aluminum.
An XLT F250 with a 6.2 L is about 2-3k cheaper than an equivalently optioned XLT with Ecoboost, in crew-cab 4x4 configuration.
It's always good to have choices.
Funny when you read from those poo pooing on an aluminum truck. All indications are GM is and Ram is probably going to be aluminum by 2017. Hope the naysayers enjoy the flavor of crow.
Back to the OP. Buying a new truck and tuning it would not be the best use of your money. Wait till you get it and drive it to really understand how it performs. You'll be surprised.
Not sure if you have but you should also visit/join www.ford-trucks.com. Great members and very useful info sharing. - PowerdudeExplorer
Gdetrailer wrote:
Best part of all is it cost me nearly $10,000 LESS than a 6.7 and $8,000 less than a F150 Eco boost..
I was playing around with the Build-to-order, and that is definitely right.
The new F150 is aluminum, and guess what? You PAY, PAY and PAY for all the materials and engineering that went into that. Is it really needed?
Maybe, but do I need it? Hardly, so why should I pay for something I don't need? I can buy a Coke can if I need aluminum.
An XLT F250 with a 6.2 L is about 2-3k cheaper than an equivalently optioned XLT with Ecoboost, in crew-cab 4x4 configuration.
It's always good to have choices. - WeldonExplorerToo many nay sayers who have not experienced the situation upon which you requested. Warranty would certainly be an issue.
- GdetrailerExplorer III
~DJ~ wrote:
Gdetrailer wrote:
~DJ~ wrote:
I hear time and time again "I put a cold air intake on my truck and noticed zero difference".
Of course you didn't!! The computer wasn't calling for more air. Even a less restrictive exhaust won't help. But add a tuner to the mix and all 3 work together putting a big grin on your face!!
6.2 does not "need" ANY "mods", it has an intake/filter which can easily flow MORE than that engine will ever be able to process.
The exhaust system is ALSO plenty large enough to handle the what the engine can put out and more..
It is a well designed setup that only the over the top gear heads can't believe that no mods are needed.
Yes, it is not a 6.7 diesel and yes, it is not turbo charged like a Eco Boost but it DOESN'T COST AS MUCH TO BUY UPFRONT as either of those other two.
But it DOES already have plenty of grunt, that grunt is UNDER control via the torque management system and other than being heavy handed in the control department it tows like a dream ONCE you "learn" how it really works..
I have towed as much as 9K with mine and you still can't wipe the smile off my face.
Best part of all is it cost me nearly $10,000 LESS than a 6.7 and $8,000 less than a F150 Eco boost..
It's intake/exhaust is capable of flowing more air than the COMPUTER can call for!! Not so when you add the tuner.
No, the 6.2 doesn't NEED any mods but what does that have to do with WANT? :B
Hmm.. interesting, so you are saying a programmer WILL be able to RAISE the MAX RPM of the ENGINE OVER THE RED LINE?
I call BS on that..
The STOCK exhaust pipe/muffler on my 6.2 is 3.5" diameter, the air intake is about 4". The air flow for that size pretty well ABOVE ALL RPMS BELOW RED LINE.
Programmers do not increase the redline RPMs, they simply play with the fuel trim, fuel mapping, alter the torque management and play with shift points. You might see a small increase in HP but it will COST YOU IN GAS MILEAGE AND WARRANTY to do so..
If you have an extra $10K-$20K in your back pocket that you can afford to repair or rebuild your engine go right ahead.. Ford won't touch under warranty it once you add a programmer.. - _DJ_1Explorer II
Gdetrailer wrote:
~DJ~ wrote:
I hear time and time again "I put a cold air intake on my truck and noticed zero difference".
Of course you didn't!! The computer wasn't calling for more air. Even a less restrictive exhaust won't help. But add a tuner to the mix and all 3 work together putting a big grin on your face!!
6.2 does not "need" ANY "mods", it has an intake/filter which can easily flow MORE than that engine will ever be able to process.
The exhaust system is ALSO plenty large enough to handle the what the engine can put out and more..
It is a well designed setup that only the over the top gear heads can't believe that no mods are needed.
Yes, it is not a 6.7 diesel and yes, it is not turbo charged like a Eco Boost but it DOESN'T COST AS MUCH TO BUY UPFRONT as either of those other two.
But it DOES already have plenty of grunt, that grunt is UNDER control via the torque management system and other than being heavy handed in the control department it tows like a dream ONCE you "learn" how it really works..
I have towed as much as 9K with mine and you still can't wipe the smile off my face.
Best part of all is it cost me nearly $10,000 LESS than a 6.7 and $8,000 less than a F150 Eco boost..
It's intake/exhaust is capable of flowing more air than the COMPUTER can call for!! Not so when you add the tuner.
No, the 6.2 doesn't NEED any mods but what does that have to do with WANT? :B - GdetrailerExplorer III
~DJ~ wrote:
I hear time and time again "I put a cold air intake on my truck and noticed zero difference".
Of course you didn't!! The computer wasn't calling for more air. Even a less restrictive exhaust won't help. But add a tuner to the mix and all 3 work together putting a big grin on your face!!
6.2 does not "need" ANY "mods", it has an intake/filter which can easily flow MORE than that engine will ever be able to process.
The exhaust system is ALSO plenty large enough to handle the what the engine can put out and more..
It is a well designed setup that only the over the top gear heads can't believe that no mods are needed.
Yes, it is not a 6.7 diesel and yes, it is not turbo charged like a Eco Boost but it DOESN'T COST AS MUCH TO BUY UPFRONT as either of those other two.
But it DOES already have plenty of grunt, that grunt is UNDER control via the torque management system and other than being heavy handed in the control department it tows like a dream ONCE you "learn" how it really works..
I have towed as much as 9K with mine and you still can't wipe the smile off my face.
Best part of all is it cost me nearly $10,000 LESS than a 6.7 and $8,000 less than a F150 Eco boost..
- _DJ_1Explorer III hear time and time again "I put a cold air intake on my truck and noticed zero difference".
Of course you didn't!! The computer wasn't calling for more air. Even a less restrictive exhaust won't help. But add a tuner to the mix and all 3 work together putting a big grin on your face!! - badercubedExplorerThanks for the thoughts. I didn't know if going from an Ecoboost I'd miss the get up and go during everyday driving. After a week, I really haven't.

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