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d1h
Nomad III
Jan 03, 2024

New gas stations everywhere

If we are heading to an all electric future why is it everywhere I go I see new gas stations being built? Some are huge with rows and rows of gas pumps. Don't seem to see any charging stations being built. Is  the electric revolution going to die and ICE will remain king?

  • No one, especially Musk loses 94 billion "With a B" and expects to recover that loss. He will continue his massive government subsidies and so will any other auto maker that delves into this pseudo reality.  It works but with a cost, a huge cost! Both to the consumer and the disposal end of it. I have seen pics and videos of the EV cars, buses and trucks simply self igniting, in the middle of the parking lot, overnight. " I will post the stories" Batteries are the nastiest part of the car in my opinion. I know a little bit about cars and trucks. If anyone thinks that the government is ever going to divest out of the gasoline business, Well that is not reality.  This is JMHO...

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-gets-94-billion-reality-133000964.html

  • Severe cold weather now in much of the USA is a killer of EV vehicles.  This just now from Chicago TV news.

    "Nothing. No juice. Still on zero percent," said Tyler Beard, who has been trying to recharge his Tesla at an Oak Brook Tesla supercharging station since Sunday afternoon. "And this is like three hours being out here after being out here three hours yesterday."

    Beard was among the dozens of Tesla owners trying desperately to power up their cars at the Tesla supercharging station in Oak Brook. It was a scene mirrored with long lines and abandoned cars at scores of other charging stations around the Chicago area.

     

    "This is crazy. It’s a disaster. Seriously," said Tesla owner Chalis Mizelle. 

    Mizelle was forced to abandon her car and get a ride from a friend when it wouldn’t charge. 

    Another man summed up the situation succinctly: "We got a bunch of dead robots out here."

    But it was no laughing matter to people like Kevin Sumrak, who landed at O’Hare Sunday night to find his Tesla dead. 

    Sumlak was forced to hire a flatbed tow truck to try to find a working charging station".

    • Reisender's avatar
      Reisender
      Nomad

      Baby it’s cold out there. 😂


      We use superchargers at around minus 30 occasionally. Never had a problem. Quick and easy. Drivers need to remember to ore-condition their battery though.  Otherwise a 20 minute supercharge can turn into a 2 hour (or more) fiasco.  The reporter that reported this story actually says that towards the end of his report. 

      Stay safe and warm out there folks. Spring is on the way. 

      • Bedlam's avatar
        Bedlam
        Moderator

        Gasoline freezes at -40 to -200 degrees Fahrenheit, so it is not the fuel causing the issue in Calgary. Most likely the fuel source has too much water contamination and is freezing the water filter/separator before getting dispensed.

  • In many decades of driving gasser Ram Trucks I have never had a dead truck battery due to extreme cold including in northern California and Nevada with temps down into low single digits.  Cold engine always started right up with no need for heater blanket, etc.  I do carry a small lithium power pack for emergency starts just in case when in remote areas and I keep the power pack inside the warm truck.  These things works great that I have used to help other folks start their trucks in warm weather due to their old failed batteries and owners neglect and not the temps.

    Electric vehicles are facing issues including decline in performance, weaker battery life, increased charge times and even long lines.  Many EV owners suffering buyers remorse and will buy a hybrid or full gasser next time.

    China continues building more polluting coal burning power plants to produce electricity for their EVs.

    Cybertruck has very poor towing range compared to same size gasser truck with a 6600 lb load.

    Tesla Cybertruck Tows a Tesla Model Y, Doesn't Go Very Far - autoevolution

     

  • Got into a wee discussion with an environmental activist a while back. They took exception to my ride, a diesel truck I'd driven into town unloaded, having left the camper in the campground. After they berated me for not driving a Prius, I had to point out that said Prius wasn't capable of towing my camper, and I saw no benefit to having the wife drive a Prius separately on the camping trip just so we could use it to go get groceries. The moral of the story is that different vehicles have different uses, and there is no economy or environmental benefit to having two when a single more capable one could serve more than one use.

    If you gotta drag around heavy stuff daily through the fields on yer farm, and a heavy camper on vacation, and once a week run into town for groceries and stuff, you don't need an F'ing Prius. On the other hand, if your heaviest and most frequent automotive task is taking you butt into the office daily, you don't need that truck, a Prius is perfect. 

    To my friends who've bought electric vehicles and for whom they are a perfect fit, bully for you. My needs are different, thank you very much.

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    Thousands of car dealers have a potent warning for electric vehicle enthusiasts

    Celebrity Motor Cars CEO said that consumers are just not ready for EVs.

    The Street News

     

      • MastEvac71's avatar
        MastEvac71
        Nomad

        Well Mr.  many business news and auto news (recent) articles speak for themselves for those that can read plain English.  1/3 of cadillace dealers will not accept EVs or they will shut down if forced to.  Evidently EV folks don't ever read auto news, Bloomberg, WSJ, Barrons, etc., etc.  Shoot the messenger never changes anything sport. I could care less about convincing anyone but there are two sides to every issue.  Most EV owners have a reliable ICE vehicle for important functions such as long distance trips but never admit it on social forums.  Hypocrites.

        The 3 major auto makers have drastically scaled back EV truck production due to lack of consumer demand. Just the news. Trying to force high priced EVs down the throats of consumers with mandates is not working I am happy to say.  Many millions of Americans live in condos and apartments without charging stations so no home charging for the poor souls. 

         

  • Just announced in Detroit free press that one half of ford dealers will not sell any full electric EV vehicles in 2024. Cheers.

    • Reisender's avatar
      Reisender
      Nomad

      Sounds like Ford is having a problem producing a good price competitive product. Hopefully they will figure it out. Maybe a direct to consumer sales model is needed. 

      • Reality_Check's avatar
        Reality_Check
        Nomad II

        Reisender wrote:

        Sounds like Ford is having a problem producing a good price competitive product. Hopefully they will figure it out. Maybe a direct to consumer sales model is needed. 


        Sounds like Ford figured out that they don't have to play the game.  None of the EV's are "competitive" it one removes the tax incentives/government subsidies.  Every heard of the term ROI?  It drives business, as it should. 

         

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