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Whangler
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Aug 02, 2016

1/2t to 3/4t: My new truck is a...

Last week I posted a question about older ford 7.3 diesels. I got lots of great responses from forum members here. You all are awesome, thank you. You all helped me reach a decision about a new tow vehicle.

Our 2007 Toyota Tundra 5.7L 4x4 double cab did a magnificent job of towing our old trailer; a 27' ultralight that weighed 5k loaded over high mountains and through windy deserts. When we upgraded to a new Arctic Fox 25r last month (27' long, 7500 lbs + loaded) we figured the tundra would be fine. Well, the engine pulls the trailer beautifully, but our recent trip to the oregon coast from our home in Sonoma County, CA was a real rough drive. This is where I discovered my beloved Tundra is not appropriately matched by our new Arctic Fox 25r (7500lbs total loaded weight, ~1,000 lbs tongue weight)

It was just too much work to pull that new trailer with the tundra. Yes under the best of conditions it was fine but add gusty winds, hilly, curvy roads, passing semis, lousy road conditions I could not relax. The handling was at times a bit freaky. I read enough posts before hand where forum posters admonished us to get a bigger truck. I didn't want to believe it because that tundra is such a good reliable truck.

I had a 95 chevrolet 2500 diesel years ago that became a money pit long before it hit 100k miles. I swore I'd never get another american made vehicle, ever, especially a gm.

Well today I drove a lightly used 2016 F250 6.2 XL trim. Loved the truck but jeez louise, that thing was stripped down to the bone. Crank windows, manual door locks and mirrors, no door pockets, puny glove box, etc. A nicer late model used f250 with warranty was out of my budget.

The chev dealer next door had a 2015 Silverado 2500 LT 6.0 gasser with 9500 miles on it. It's a crew cab long bed 4x4. Wow, This thing is LONG!! It's now mine. I liked the way it drives just as much as the ford. Got extended warranty on an already GM Certified vehicle. Fingers crossed it works out better than my last GM.
I love the diesels but they are cost prohibitive for me.

Had all things been equal in terms of price and trim, it would have been an exceedingly difficult decision between the ford and chev.

Do you think it will handle my trailer more comfortably?
  • Congrates on your new truck.All the new trucks are gas trucks are awesome with the 6 sp.
    I visit the Anza Borrego every year and manage a little 4x with my rig
  • Congrats on the new truck. With crew cab and long bed that should be a very stable set up.

    I loved the 6L/6 speed combo and I only had a 3.42 axle!
  • kw/00 wrote:
    By the way, several of us tow with the GM 6.0, so ask questions about it freely. I'm sure others will chime in shortly. I have pulled with both gas and deisel, I choose gas. I'm on my second GM 6.0 and would by another if something happened to this one. I just recently had the Blackbear tune done on it and have really enjoyed less TQ management. I mean the truck has always been awesome but it really has stepped up the game now. Mpgs to expect to get... Empty you will get: 13-15 city, and 15-17 hwy. Towing 7.5-9.0. Now all that being said, I just pulled back from Sarasota from this last trip. Pulling my 10k I was getting 9.0 mpgs.... Prior tune the same route and speed68-70 I was getting 8.0-8.5. So very happy to pick up another perk! Otherwise, the 6.0 doesn't need much, extremely reliable... I mean change the fluids, filters and take care of it and you will see 300k easy.


    Thanks for the encouraging words. The new silverado 2500 definitely has a more firm and sure footed feel on the road, unloaded at least. My Tundra regularly got 10mpg with the old trailer. This Arctic fox 25r though the same length, stands way taller and is much heavier than the old ultra light. In spite of the bulbous, streamlined fiberglass front cap, the Tundra was getting 8.5 to 9mpg with the Fox. I suppose I'll always covet a diesel but will wait til I win the lottery to get one.
  • I love my Chev 6.0L! It pulls awesome. I just back from a trip out West and have ZERO complaints about how it towed. It pulls hard up hills, maintains steady low trans temps even in hot conditions, and it is extremely stable.

    Congrats OP!
  • camp-n-family wrote:
    Hopefully you are happy with the new truck. I traded my beloved '07 Tundra for a Ram 2500 last year to tow my 7600lbs tt. I'm trading for a new Tundra again. The Ram has been nothing but problems and honestly the old Tundra towed my tt better.


    Sorry to hear the Ram didn't work out for you. What specifically were the problems with the Ram? In what ways does the Tundra tow better?


    You can't beat the reliability of the Tundra and that 5.7 v8 is one nice motor. They use an Aisin transmission as well. I wish toyota would put that power train in a 3/4 ton chassis. I just read an article about a fella who drove his 2007 Tundra 1 million miles and the only problem was he lost his reverse gear at some point. Probably an outlier but still pretty amazing. Toyota gave him a new truck free so they could study the wear patterns on his old one. Hopefully to make improvements rather than to more carefully plan obsolescence.
  • Hopefully you are happy with the new truck. I traded my beloved '07 Tundra for a Ram 2500 last year to tow my 7600lbs tt. I'm trading for a new Tundra again. The Ram has been nothing but problems and honestly the old Tundra towed my tt better.
  • By the way, several of us tow with the GM 6.0, so ask questions about it freely. I'm sure others will chime in shortly. I have pulled with both gas and deisel, I choose gas. I'm on my second GM 6.0 and would by another if something happened to this one. I just recently had the Blackbear tune done on it and have really enjoyed less TQ management. I mean the truck has always been awesome but it really has stepped up the game now. Mpgs to expect to get... Empty you will get: 13-15 city, and 15-17 hwy. Towing 7.5-9.0. Now all that being said, I just pulled back from Sarasota from this last trip. Pulling my 10k I was getting 9.0 mpgs.... Prior tune the same route and speed68-70 I was getting 8.0-8.5. So very happy to pick up another perk! Otherwise, the 6.0 doesn't need much, extremely reliable... I mean change the fluids, filters and take care of it and you will see 300k easy.
  • I think its a fine choice to pull your trailer. The 6.0 is a reliable veteran and certainly able to handle that load. Good luck with your new truck and happy camping.
  • Congrats, and yes it will handle your camper so much better. When you first tow with this new truck you will notice the stability right away. The power is there as well, don't forget you just purchased one of the most reliable GM truck engines ever made. The 6.0 has been a proven workhorse for many years, and with the 6 speed life gets better.