2015 f-350 with 4:30

24k on a 350? I can't find any towing specs that say that. Where did you find that information?

The 2015 Super Duty brochure states that F-350 with 4:30 gears can tow(5th wheel/goose neck) 26,700, but is limited to 26,500 because of the hitch.
Bumper pull is 19,000.

Wow..ok thanks. Pretty much maxes out the GCWR, and everything else I would imagine.

I've got a 2015 F450 which has the 4.3 gearing. But, my toy hauler weighs much less than your DRV. Personally, I'd get an F450, basically the same price as a decked out F350. I think the sticker on mine was $72,000 or $73,000. It's the King Ranch, black carpet, and I love the interior. It doesn't have the rear heated seats which I wanted but could not find and also does not have the engine block heater. These are low cost items but this truck had everything else I wanted and I could not find one with every single option.

In my opinion, when you get in to 5th wheels at those weights you need all the truck you can get. I would see no reason to get an F350 over an F450. Bigger suspension, bigger brakes, bigger wheels, commercial rated tires. I don't know all the weights on the Max Tow F350 but you do get some suspension and brake upgrades on the F450.

It seems some have had issues regarding registration on the F450's, especially in California. I had no issues in Texas. I'm sure you know this and may already have it, but you will need a non commercial Class A license with that 5th wheel and with either truck.

Here are some numbers on the F450:
GCWR: 40,400
GVWR: 14000
Rear: GAWR 9100
Front: GAWR 5940
5th wheel tow capacity of 31,200 but the Reese hitch is limited to 26,500 I believe.

C130 wrote:
I've got a 2015 F450 which has the 4.3 gearing. But, my toy hauler weighs much less than your DRV. Personally, I'd get an F450, basically the same price as a decked out F350. I think the sticker on mine was $72,000 or $73,000. It's the King Ranch, black carpet, and I love the interior. It doesn't have the rear heated seats which I wanted but could not find and also does not have the engine block heater. These are low cost items but this truck had everything else I wanted and I could not find one with every single option.

In my opinion, when you get in to 5th wheels at those weights you need all the truck you can get. I would see no reason to get an F350 over an F450. Bigger suspension, bigger brakes, bigger wheels, commercial rated tires. I don't know all the weights on the Max Tow F350 but you do get some suspension and brake upgrades on the F450.

It seems some have had issues regarding registration on the F450's, especially in California. I had no issues in Texas. I'm sure you know this and may already have it, but you will need a non commercial Class A license with that 5th wheel and with either truck.

Would have liked a F450 but there are none for sale anywhere that I can find and cannot order a 15 so either get a 350 or wait a few months or more to order a 16

invstr55 wrote:

C130 wrote:
I've got a 2015 F450 which has the 4.3 gearing. But, my toy hauler weighs much less than your DRV. Personally, I'd get an F450, basically the same price as a decked out F350. I think the sticker on mine was $72,000 or $73,000. It's the King Ranch, black carpet, and I love the interior. It doesn't have the rear heated seats which I wanted but could not find and also does not have the engine block heater. These are low cost items but this truck had everything else I wanted and I could not find one with every single option.

In my opinion, when you get in to 5th wheels at those weights you need all the truck you can get. I would see no reason to get an F350 over an F450. Bigger suspension, bigger brakes, bigger wheels, commercial rated tires. I don't know all the weights on the Max Tow F350 but you do get some suspension and brake upgrades on the F450.

It seems some have had issues regarding registration on the F450's, especially in California. I had no issues in Texas. I'm sure you know this and may already have it, but you will need a non commercial Class A license with that 5th wheel and with either truck.

Would have liked a F450 but there are none for sale anywhere that I can find and cannot order a 15 so either get a 350 or wait a few months or more to order a 16

Understand, I think the one I bought was a special order and the buyer backed out. I saw another new one at the motocross track yesterday but the guy had done a lot of modifications to it, personally didn't care for it much. He had put black wheels on it, LED lights all over, some other******also. Just wasn't my taste though the guy had put a ton of money in to it.

Tough decision, have you got to drive the F450? I drove several F350's and couldn't tell much, if any, of a ride difference. I'd almost wait until the 2016's come out if you could wait that long or buy anywhere I could find one.

I believe the F350 equipped with a 4:30 rear axle requires the Tow Boss option which includes the same front wide differential like the F450 to allow for sharper turns.

Is there a reason you can't tow this trailer with your RAM?

investr wrote:
Would have liked a F450 but there are none for sale anywhere that I can find and cannot order a 15 so either get a 350 or wait a few months or more to order a 16

I wouldn't stress too much about F350 vs F450. The F350 DRW 4x4 with the payload package has the same GVWR as the 450, and for some strange reason the RGAWR is 550 pounds higher on the 350. According to Ford's website brakes are the same size across all Super Duty pickups. The F450 does have a wider track front end and the 19.5" commercial tires and wheels and a considerably higher GCWR. I'm guessing the derated GVWR on the 450 has something to do Ford wanting it to still be considered light duty instead of medium duty in the DOT truck classifications.

rjstractor wrote:

investr wrote:
Would have liked a F450 but there are none for sale anywhere that I can find and cannot order a 15 so either get a 350 or wait a few months or more to order a 16

I wouldn't stress too much about F350 vs F450. The F350 DRW 4x4 with the payload package has the same GVWR as the 450, and for some strange reason the RGAWR is 550 pounds higher on the 350. According to Ford's website brakes are the same size across all Super Duty pickups. The F450 does have a wider track front end and the 19.5" commercial tires and wheels and a considerably higher GCWR. I'm guessing the derated GVWR on the 450 has something to do Ford wanting it to still be considered light duty instead of medium duty in the DOT truck classifications.

Yeah, it sounds like the F350 with the max tow package is pretty similar to the F450. That's definitely a heavy 5th wheel so I was thinking for not much different in the price might as well get the F450. But, if there's not any around I guess it's not an option. I wasn't looking at F450's at all, my truck just happened to arrive and the sales guy called me because it was exactly what I was looking for as far as interior, color, and most all the options.

I have been told ( by my dealer and others) the brakes are a little bigger on the F450 but I'm not 100% sure. In years past the rotors were bigger I think but I haven't confirmed it on the 2015. I found the most of the salesman I dealt with were pretty clueless on the Super Duty trucks and several flat out lied trying to make a sale.

2015 DRV Fullhouse
2014 HD Limited
2012 Ram 3500 Dually

Why aren't you looking at a RAM, Aisin, 4.10 rig?

Chris