2016 F450 Setup

Checking the specs on the Ford site, the 2016 F450, DRW, 4x4 has a max GVWR of 14,000 and a payload of 5,300 for a crew cab. This is compared to the F350 DRW, crew 4x4 which has the same max GVWR but a max payload of 6,460, both LWB trucks. Keeping to the same trucks (crew, 3x4, DRW)but moving to chassis cabs, the F350 has 6,937 for max payload, the 450 is 8,977 and the 550 is 11,800 all of which are for the 176.2" wheel base to keep things consistent as the 450 and 550 also come in a 200.2" WB.

As I have looked at Super Duty trucks, having owned 3 so far, I can't make sense out of the F450 as it has the same GVWR as the comparable F350 and a lower payload. The difference that I can find between the 450 and the 350 is in towing capacity. They are identical for conventional towing but the 450 maxes at 31,200 for a fifth wheel compared to 26,500 for an F350. Having routinely conventional towed 10,000 lbs. with my F350, I really don't think that I would want to max out the towing capacity of any truck. I have a 2013 F350, crew, diesel, crew, long bed. I love it and have had no issues with it at all and now am at about 25,000 miles. When we got the truck camper, the 2011 F250 (same truck right down to color but SRW was not sufficient and we went to the F350. Now that I am seriously considering a flatbed mounted TC with a 3 foot cross bed box on the bed forward of the TC, there is likely to be an F550, crew, diesel, 200.2"WB in our future but that is likely to be a 2017 chassis cab.

I remember seeing F450 payload in the range of 7000lb depends on the option.
On my 1999 F450 flatbed I was carrying 10,000+lb easy, but weight distribution was big issue.
Is it my impression, or on newer trucks Ford moved the rear axle past 50% of the bed length, giving it better weight distribution?

What is the payload rating for this new F450 as ordered?

I do think Ford will eventually sort it all out. Well, that is if those DAMNED Feds/EPA will stop moving the goal post!
Someone should figure out all the money $pent (both primary and secondary) conforming to all the the gov mandates on our trucks! HUGE!
The gov strangles companies with regulations, and bleeds them with taxes.....and wonders why their not healthy!

I'm lucky that I've found a great local diesel mechanic that also has been doing fleet work for local carriers. That made it easy to consider a used one owner local truck for 30K less than new. I can say the dealers in the area are hit/miss, but ford-trucks.com is good about steering to good dealers.

Nautique200 wrote:
Lets just say that the reason I am looking to switch from my two year old truck to a new Ford is because I have a truck with some on going issues that I have not been able to to get resolved after two years. The last thing I want is to jump into a Ford and have a similar situation. So, when I saw those threads I got very nervous again.

I love my Ram aside from these two or three issues. Oh, and all the recalls. I honestly think I just got a bad one and I am having to deal with it.

I also had a 2014 Ram 3500 with issues that the dealer could not and eventually would not fix. I ended up Lemon Lawing the truck and won big time. I loved the truck but just too many little and big issues with it at only 8000 miles. Just in the short time I owned the truck I have received 2 recall notices in the mail and 2 more after the truck was gone.

I also have a 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited with 34,000 miles and its been perfect. No issues with UConnect on either my truck or Jeep.

Lets just say that the reason I am looking to switch from my two year old truck to a new Ford is because I have a truck with some on going issues that I have not been able to to get resolved after two years. The last thing I want is to jump into a Ford and have a similar situation. So, when I saw those threads I got very nervous again.

I love my Ram aside from these two or three issues. Oh, and all the recalls. I honestly think I just got a bad one and I am having to deal with it.

I was very happy with Ford service and my last truck. I feel Ram is a much better truck than it was last time I shopped and now we will see how it weathers time and mileage. I have not had a problem with my Ram in the first year but I didn't have one problem with my Ford for the first four plus years, so it's still too early tell. Repair work had been done to my Ford at three different dealerships (due circumstance and not dissatisfaction) and all of them got the job done right the first time, under estimate and under time.

The service quality is wide issue.
Years ago local Ford dealer drop filter clamp inside my turbo during "safety check" they perform without letting me know.
Last month Mercedes dealer hold wife car for 4 days for..... wheel alignment..
With today's car technology exceeding mechanics skills those things are going to happen and I know people who having money -decided to buy 1980's car for simplicity.
I am window-shopping for 2016 dually and so far found that skipping leather, power windows and power seats will shave about $12,000 from sticker price.
But good luck finding a truck that is not loaded.