2016 GMC Canyon Duramax MPG Test

45Ricochet wrote:

LOL You proved his point IMO. You hate diesels.
Now how about starting up a railroad business. What would you use Donald? What about UPS? What about the food you get at the grocery store?
I suppose they all arrive with a gasser?
I give up the debate with the brainless folks.
You win :(

Speaking of brainless, is this thread about starting up a commercial hauling business or buying a decent tow rig for the average RV owner? Classic straw man there, this thread has nothing to do with railroads, national freight haulers or anything else, diesel makes sense there, no debate.

Watch the TFL test of the 3.7, you don't have to take my word for it. Mine has the shorter gearing (not sure of test truck), Rousch intake and exhaust. it may have dipped to below 60 near the top, but was 65 pretty much the whole way. I was also towing east to west, not sure what they do. It revs a lot, but it's the free engine in the XLT, so I couldn't care less. Besides, both my quad, motorcycle, and snowmobile run 5500-8000 rpm all day.
Back on topic......

45Ricochet wrote:

Hybridhunter wrote:

Bionic Man wrote:

Hybridhunter wrote:
It was one of the slowest rigs that the TFL Truck crew had tested, but if mileage is the priority, this looks like the rig. If you gotta have a diesel midsize, this is the truck for you.
Personally, 185hp in a nearly full sized truck ain't my cup of tea. Neither is a $45 K midsize truck. That diesel will never pay for itself, ever, and bad seats are unforgivable.

I will give you one thing. At least you are consistent in your hatred of diesels.....

As a manager who runs part of a business, there is no "business case" for these machines. If you want a small truck that runs low rpm, well that it is. But it is nothing resembling economic, or a good value.

And to be clear, I don't like slow, over-priced, or uncomfortable vehicles, I don't care if it has a nuclear reactor powering it, a gimmick is a gimmick.

LOL You proved his point IMO. You hate diesels.
Now how about starting up a railroad business. What would you use Donald? What about UPS? What about the food you get at the grocery store?
I suppose they all arrive with a gasser?
I give up the debate with the brainless folks.
You win :(

I always go back to the fact that numerous times he claims that his NA Ford 3.7 V6 pulls Eisenhower at 65 with his RV in tow. Unless he had the very best engine Ford ever built, it is very difficult to maintain credibility with claims like that.

FireGuard wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
That's nuthin! I used to get 44 with my 81 VW Diesel PU. That's with a bed full of tools.

Those old VW diesels were great. I had 2 cars and a P/U. The 50 mpg + was great delivering pizzas while going to college.
Loved the P/U but a little tight in the cab.
I think they are making a new P/U. Saw an ad for one, but of course not sold in the US.
A CC 4x4 with 6 1/2' bed with the new 1.9L turbo diesel would probably be a good seller.

I had a VW diesel Rabbit, an 81 I think. It had a 5-speed and was rated to get 44-45 in town and 60 mpg on the highway. I used to check my mileage all the time on the highway and I really did get 60. It never smoked - didn't burn enough diesel to ever smoke.

Biggest problem I had was the fuel jelling up in winter. I ended up ordering an in-line fuel heater from JC Whitney and spliced it in just upstream of the filter to cure the problem.

When you have no case, go ad homonym, classic.
Your statement about what I think or did or didn't so doesn't make it so.

Hybridhunter wrote:

Bionic Man wrote:

Hybridhunter wrote:
It was one of the slowest rigs that the TFL Truck crew had tested, but if mileage is the priority, this looks like the rig. If you gotta have a diesel midsize, this is the truck for you.
Personally, 185hp in a nearly full sized truck ain't my cup of tea. Neither is a $45 K midsize truck. That diesel will never pay for itself, ever, and bad seats are unforgivable.

I will give you one thing. At least you are consistent in your hatred of diesels.....

As a manager who runs part of a business, there is no "business case" for these machines. If you want a small truck that runs low rpm, well that it is. But it is nothing resembling economic, or a good value.

And to be clear, I don't like slow, over-priced, or uncomfortable vehicles, I don't care if it has a nuclear reactor powering it, a gimmick is a gimmick.

LOL You proved his point IMO. You hate diesels.
Now how about starting up a railroad business. What would you use Donald? What about UPS? What about the food you get at the grocery store?
I suppose they all arrive with a gasser?
I give up the debate with the brainless folks.
You win :(

Bionic Man wrote:

Hybridhunter wrote:
It was one of the slowest rigs that the TFL Truck crew had tested, but if mileage is the priority, this looks like the rig. If you gotta have a diesel midsize, this is the truck for you.
Personally, 185hp in a nearly full sized truck ain't my cup of tea. Neither is a $45 K midsize truck. That diesel will never pay for itself, ever, and bad seats are unforgivable.

I will give you one thing. At least you are consistent in your hatred of diesels.....

As a manager who runs part of a business, there is no "business case" for these machines. If you want a small truck that runs low rpm, well that it is. But it is nothing resembling economic, or a good value.

And to be clear, I don't like slow, over-priced, or uncomfortable vehicles, I don't care if it has a nuclear reactor powering it, a gimmick is a gimmick.

FishOnOne wrote:

RobertRyan wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

GWolfe wrote:
Cant believe this hasn't been posted yet. Got the highest overall score of any truck they have tested.

Good observation.... I'm not sure you can compare the Canyons rating to a full size truck.

They tend to run a 7,000lb payload on the TFL Ike Gauntlet tests.They will be doing the IKe Gauntlet with the maximum payload as specified by the various manufacturers, that should be interesting

Yes indeed... BTW I like that bumper on that brown truck.

That is a Mazda BT 50, has a highest payload of the current crop of Diesel Utes at 2,500lb for the DualCab
The other is the IVECO Daily 65c. Latest model is the 70c with a 23,000lb GCVWR and are Mini Artics in Europe. Think of a Sprinter with 5th wheel turntable

RobertRyan wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

GWolfe wrote:
Cant believe this hasn't been posted yet. Got the highest overall score of any truck they have tested.

Good observation.... I'm not sure you can compare the Canyons rating to a full size truck.

They tend to run a 7,000lb payload on the TFL Ike Gauntlet tests.They will be doing the IKe Gauntlet with the maximum payload as specified by the various manufacturers, that should be interesting

Yes indeed... BTW I like that bumper on that brown truck.

FishOnOne wrote:

GWolfe wrote:
Cant believe this hasn't been posted yet. Got the highest overall score of any truck they have tested.

Good observation.... I'm not sure you can compare the Canyons rating to a full size truck.

They tend to run a 7,000lb payload on the TFL Ike Gauntlet tests.They will be doing the IKe Gauntlet with the maximum payload as specified by the various manufacturers, that should be interesting