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The Mad Norsky wrote:
Threebigfords wrote:
Did you happen to notice the THICKNESS of those springs on the F450? If you had been paying attention you would have seen how much thicker they are than your Ram's and even the F350 MAX TOW. Leaf count means nothing.
So yet again you failed to name any of these "many" components that are smaller on the F450 than the 3500.
Nope, springs were about the same thickness. Just less of them on the F-450.
Bad news is, it might be time for glasses, on the plus side, at least you can still count.- Those Transits are poor excuses for Ford vans. European carp.
The E150/250/350 is only van Ford will ever need to make and the service trades industry will keep buying them forever, because they work hard every day. rowekmr wrote:
Frankly I am impressed that Ford has built a truck that has been tested to pull such loads even up an incline. Now I know hot shots have been doing this for awhile heck my buddy with a Ram 3500 DRW took me on a trip where he had 2 F350 Platinums and a Ford crossover on his 4 car trailer so he routinely tows in that realm completely stock but I am sure over his factory ratings.
My only experience with the 6.7l is hauling RV trailers for a short time (in a F250) but my trailers never were over 15k so doubling that load is a impressive feat to me.
Depending on the circumstances though as some others pointed out I probably would want a MDT at least to pull 30K but for someone who needs a DD its good to know that their people hauler/grocery getter can also tow 30K when needed! The only downside to me is price. That MSRP would send me into sticker shock/cardiac arrest for sure.
Sometimes it takes a RAM to get the ford's to the Dealer. :B
- Frankly I am impressed that Ford has built a truck that has been tested to pull such loads even up an incline. Now I know hot shots have been doing this for awhile heck my buddy with a Ram 3500 DRW took me on a trip where he had 2 F350 Platinums and a Ford crossover on his 4 car trailer so he routinely tows in that realm completely stock but I am sure over his factory ratings.
My only experience with the 6.7l is hauling RV trailers for a short time (in a F250) but my trailers never were over 15k so doubling that load is a impressive feat to me.
Depending on the circumstances though as some others pointed out I probably would want a MDT at least to pull 30K but for someone who needs a DD its good to know that their people hauler/grocery getter can also tow 30K when needed! The only downside to me is price. That MSRP would send me into sticker shock/cardiac arrest for sure. - One correction from earlier in the thread. The 450 no longer uses the S130 rear axle for 2017. It's now employs the M300. The DRW also uses the M300 but in a lighter duty version. The SRW 350 and HD250 now use the M275. The standard 250 still uses the Sterling 10.5.
Threebigfords wrote:
Did you happen to notice the THICKNESS of those springs on the F450? If you had been paying attention you would have seen how much thicker they are than your Ram's and even the F350 MAX TOW. Leaf count means nothing.
So yet again you failed to name any of these "many" components that are smaller on the F450 than the 3500.
Nope, springs were about the same thickness. Just less of them on the F-450.- The fact is that Ford undersprings all of their pickups. You have to get the cab/chassis truck if you want springs that are rated to carry the truck's payload capacity/GVWR without sagging out. Even then, they are just barely enough.
FishOnOne wrote:
I think I would rather have a suspension that squats a little than have a front suspension that led to the largest forced recall in the automotive history backed by major financial penalties and a bracket that was welded by unskilled labor that has a rick of failure in addition a wrap around bracket bolted on for the fix.
I'm so glad Ford stayed with their cast iron bracket on these '17 Super Duty's that's bolted to the frame for a long term durable/safe product and a piece of mind.
That was a very Trump like reply, rather than address your own issue you attack the other guys. When the garage is empty I guess there is little choice.- I think I would rather have a suspension that squats a little than have a front suspension that led to the largest forced recall in the automotive history backed by major financial penalties and a bracket that was welded by unskilled labor that has a rick of failure in addition a wrap around bracket bolted on for the fix.
I'm so glad Ford stayed with their cast iron bracket on these '17 Super Duty's that's bolted to the frame for a long term durable/safe product and a piece of mind. - "In general there are MANY 250/350 SRW and 350/450 DRW trucks driving around with what I would say light loads are AZZ low, not LEVEL, AZZ low.
Is it because they want a soft ride???"
Possibly, but I can't speak for those MANY that you claim to see driving around with their headlights pointing at the sky. I can only speak for myself. I like my truck to ride level regardless of the load, which probably isn't allowing the suspension to work quite as it was intended. I'd probably get a better ride if I allowed it to squat a little. Even the squat in your pic is more than I allow on my trucks. I either level it with a WD hitch for the bumper pulls, or Air Bags for the other loads.
Seems to me you like to make generalizations based on little if any facts. Still waiting patiently for even ONE of the "many" components you claim are obviously smaller on the F450 than your Ram 3500 DRW. HD.
