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FishOnOne wrote:
Rich,
The new rear end is a M300. I don't know anything about this rear end, but I'm getting my technical information from UGA33 at FTE. He's one of the guys on the We Own Work Videos from Ford and he's getting some behind the wheel time recently in Denver.
Troy
Thanks Troy and UGA33 for the info. Glad to see Ford raising the bar. Competition makes everyone improve.
RichCumminsDriver wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Troy I really don't care what the "capacity" is so please tell me what the RAWR on the 350 and 450 Dually's are.
Same ol bolt on fenders sort of a combo of the last two styles.
Is there actually an engine under all that plastic and tubing???
Very weak Puck system placement/attachment still as B&W will only rate their hitch to 20K, same exact head on a RAM hitch is rated at 25K.
I actually think it's a good looking truck and with a Gas engine it's one I would consider for sure!
F450 RAWR is 9900 lbs. From what I understand the F350 and F450 use a similar rear end now.
I actually prefer the Ford fenders over a ram for two simple reasons: Access to the bed on the Ford is better over the swooping ram fenders that block access. And simplistic repair. I can replace a ford fender without the truck even entering a paint both.
There's actually a very big engine under that hood.
After owning a 6.7 Powerstroke for 4 years I would take it over any gas engine offering.
Also the long wheel base trucks have a 48 gallon diesel tank
Troy,
What rear axle is that? Obviously it's not the same as the 2016 F450. It looks big, but not as big as the previous model. Maybe a way to shave some weight from the truck as the S130 was probably a bit overkill for the pickups.
Rich
Rich, the new DRW axle that replaced the Dana 80, 110 and 130 is the Dana M300. The 350 DRW will also use it.
There will be 2 versions. A light duty and a heavy duty version. The 350 DRW pickups and C&C trucks will use the light duty version and the 450 pickups and 450/550 C&C trucks will use the heavy duty version.
The new SRW axle added to the lineup is the Dana M275. It will be in diesel equipped 350 SRW trucks along with diesel 250s with the High Capacity tow package.- Rich,
The new rear end is a M300. I don't know anything about this rear end, but I'm getting my technical information from UGA33 at FTE. He's one of the guys on the We Own Work Videos from Ford and he's getting some behind the wheel time recently in Denver.
Troy buc1980 wrote:
The 2017 and 2016 or early have a different connection(frame bracket) because the frame is different.
The frame is definitely different on the 2017 vs 2016 and my guess is that Ford widened the spacing on their puck system for 2017. However, they could have chosen to keep it the same which would suit me better.- The 2017 and 2016 or early have a different connection(frame bracket) because the frame is different.
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Travlingman wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Very weak Puck system placement/attachment still as B&W will only rate their hitch to 20K, same exact head on a RAM hitch is rated at 25K.
Weak puck system? One company has a hitch that is rated at 27.5K for the pucks, another 24K. Looks to me like the weak one is the company that can only design a hitch that is rated for 20K.
I think you should look at the way some build things and rate them at a much higher rating than reality.
The EXACT same system is used on the RAM with a 25K rating, the ONLY difference is the puck spacing and possibly the mounting of the pucks. If B&W could justify 25K they sure would. You really believe Craftsman when they claim their ShopVac "developed 6hp" ???
If it is the same exact system why is it not rated 25K then? Because, it is not the same. You first say it is Ford's weak puck system, but when confronted with other manufactures making systems rated at 27.5K you come up with s "ShopVac" comparison. Face it, your beloved B&W is behind the times and needs to step it up. And by the way, I have a B& in my truck now, but I am not in love with it like you are yours. Sorry, I don't have a picture of it to post.:BTravlingman wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Very weak Puck system placement/attachment still as B&W will only rate their hitch to 20K, same exact head on a RAM hitch is rated at 25K.
Weak puck system? One company has a hitch that is rated at 27.5K for the pucks, another 24K. Looks to me like the weak one is the company that can only design a hitch that is rated for 20K.
I think you should look at the way some build things and rate them at a much higher rating than reality.
The EXACT same system is used on the RAM with a 25K rating, the ONLY difference is the puck spacing and possibly the mounting of the pucks. If B&W could justify 25K they sure would. You really believe Craftsman when they claim their ShopVac "developed 6hp" ???FishOnOne wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Troy I really don't care what the "capacity" is so please tell me what the RAWR on the 350 and 450 Dually's are.
Same ol bolt on fenders sort of a combo of the last two styles.
Is there actually an engine under all that plastic and tubing???
Very weak Puck system placement/attachment still as B&W will only rate their hitch to 20K, same exact head on a RAM hitch is rated at 25K.
I actually think it's a good looking truck and with a Gas engine it's one I would consider for sure!
F450 RAWR is 9900 lbs. From what I understand the F350 and F450 use a similar rear end now.
I actually prefer the Ford fenders over a ram for two simple reasons: Access to the bed on the Ford is better over the swooping ram fenders that block access. And simplistic repair. I can replace a ford fender without the truck even entering a paint both.
There's actually a very big engine under that hood.
After owning a 6.7 Powerstroke for 4 years I would take it over any gas engine offering.
Also the long wheel base trucks have a 48 gallon diesel tank
Good to hear on the 9,900# maybe they won't have to be bagged to haul within their ratings now. How about the 350's RAWR?
I like the 48 gallon tank for sure.FishOnOne wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Troy I really don't care what the "capacity" is so please tell me what the RAWR on the 350 and 450 Dually's are.
Same ol bolt on fenders sort of a combo of the last two styles.
Is there actually an engine under all that plastic and tubing???
Very weak Puck system placement/attachment still as B&W will only rate their hitch to 20K, same exact head on a RAM hitch is rated at 25K.
I actually think it's a good looking truck and with a Gas engine it's one I would consider for sure!
F450 RAWR is 9900 lbs. From what I understand the F350 and F450 use a similar rear end now.
I actually prefer the Ford fenders over a ram for two simple reasons: Access to the bed on the Ford is better over the swooping ram fenders that block access. And simplistic repair. I can replace a ford fender without the truck even entering a paint both.
There's actually a very big engine under that hood.
After owning a 6.7 Powerstroke for 4 years I would take it over any gas engine offering.
Also the long wheel base trucks have a 48 gallon diesel tank
Troy,
What rear axle is that? Obviously it's not the same as the 2016 F450. It looks big, but not as big as the previous model. Maybe a way to shave some weight from the truck as the S130 was probably a bit overkill for the pickups.
Rich- Is the puck placement on the 2017 identical to the 2016? I'm hoping it is so I can take my "weak" B&W from my current truck and transfer it to my next one, if I end up sticking with Ford.
