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AllenTC2
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Dec 01, 2017

2018 F-150 hype....believe it or not?

So while looking into travel trailers, I’m also looking into the trucks to pull it. I’m applying the same rule of weights that I was applying to truck campers when I was looking into them; whatever the listed dry weight, add 2,000#. The truck must exceed that.

Enter the 2018 F-150. Equipped with 20” wheels, the 3.5l V6 EcoBoost, and the “Max Tow” package, it is said to have a maximum tow capacity of 12,200 pounds. Which puts my adjusted trailer weight at 75% (~9K#).

So what am I missing? Seems to be a no brainer but I was looking at F-350/450 for a ~6/7K# truck camper. I know towing and hauling are a bit different, but I’m surprised a relatively modest truck could tow 9K#.

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  • AllenTC2 wrote:


    I sorta kinda understand tongue weight. Gross weight of the trailer, position of the trailer's axle determines how much weight is bearing down on the hitch? That about right?

    And how you load it will effect the HW

    Frontal area has to do with wind resistance or drag on the truck?

    Yes

    Is 2K# a realistic bump in weight over advertised "full featured dry weight"? I figure a couple of solar panels, batteries, maybe half the freshwater tank being full, and my stuff.

    That's a good figure

    Payload only pertains to what goes in the bed, correct?

    AND THE HITCH WEIGHT
  • Ralph Cramden wrote:
    Turned it on and got it poppin, only takes a few minutes.



    Maybe I'm old school but...

    I'd never consider buying a weenie motor to do any towing job.

    I like mine buttered Ralph...
  • Uh oh.....popcorn? Dare I ask what that implies?

    I sorta kinda understand tongue weight. Gross weight of the trailer, position of the trailer's axle determines how much weight is bearing down on the hitch? That about right?

    Frontal area has to do with wind resistance or drag on the truck?

    Is 2K# a realistic bump in weight over advertised "full featured dry weight"? I figure a couple of solar panels, batteries, maybe half the freshwater tank being full, and my stuff.

    Payload only pertains to what goes in the bed, correct?
  • So the 13,200 configuration is the long wheelbase 2x4 SuperCrew with the max towing package and the gen 2 ecoboost 3.5. It looks like the max payload for that configuration is 2,870 (if also equipped with HD package, but the max tow is for the max GCWR config so I assume it implies HD) so tongue weight shouldn't be a big deal except for the fact that the class IV hitch maxes out at 1,320 if they keep to the same rating formula they've used for the last few models. I've not seen a class v hitch for the F150 so you'd have to have a custom one made if you want to exceed the 1,320 tongue weight.

    Then again at 9k gross weight you'd have to be really close to 15% to exceed 1,320 so just add some weight behind the axles to get it down a tad =)
  • Payload's usually the biggest concern with 1/2 tons. My 2010 F150 Max Tow was rated at 11,100 lbs for towing. LOL, no way would I or could I tow that.
    I had 1857 lbs for payload. My tongue weight was 900-950 lbs for my 31' 7300 lb TT. With the gear and a canopy on the truck along with the DW and I, I was 50 lbs under GVWR of 7650 lbs @7600.
    If you want to tow 9,000 lbs get a 3/4 ton truck.
  • The frontal area limitations for the F150 (with payload package) are exactly the same as they are for the F250.

    F-150
    Base Vehicle Frontal Area (36.6 sq. ft.) Without Trailer Tow Package or Payload Package

    55 sq. ft. Any Powertrain with Trailer Towing Package or Payload Package and
    Trailer Towing Ratings Between 5,001 and 7,700 lbs.

    60 sq. ft. Any Powertrain with Trailer Towing Package or Payload Package and
    Trailer Towing Ratings 7,701 lbs. and Greater

    75 sq. ft. All 5th-Wheel and Gooseneck Applications with Any Powertrain with
    Trailer Towing Package or Payload Package

    F-250/F-350/F-450/F-550 Super Duty
    75 sq. ft. All 5th-Wheel and Gooseneck Applications

    60 sq. ft. All Other Applications
  • Figures don't lie, but ....... Check out the tongue weight and frontal area of that 12,200 pound trailer in the ads for starters.

    Ask, ask, ask before you buy truck or trailer.